Handicaps in snooker

[jonny66]

If he pots all 6 colours he's a swashbuckler.

[jrc750]

Bloke is a 5 black handicap player . So he will get a 35 point start against a scratch player .

Question is ........what sort of average break would he achieve on a regular basis .


That's the way i interpret it .

The way I read it it is the other way around, ie the 6 black handicapper has to give 42 start to a scratch player.
The answer I guess is relative to the standard in the league he plays in ?
I would say if he has to give someone 42 start he should be easily capable of knocking in 50's regular ??

[Neil Taperell]

' what sort of break would you expect the 6 black handicapper to CONSISTENTLY achieve in most of the frames played '

[jrc750]

' what sort of break would you expect the 6 black handicapper to CONSISTENTLY achieve in most of the frames played '

What you saying ?
Go back and read the original question

[Neil Taperell]

That is the original question !

[jrc750]

That is the original question !

Yes but you think it is the player receiving the start, the question to me appears to ask about the player giving the start

[Neil Taperell]

Yes that is what he is asking .......what break would the 6 handicapper normally achieve .


Impossible question to answer , as it depends on the ability of everyone who enters the comp .

i.e Scratch player makes regular centuries[ best player in the club ] .......so 6 black handicapper would probably make 50's

Scratch player makes regular 70's [ again best player in the club ] .......So 6 Black handicapper would makes 30's


If you get my drift !

[jrc750]

Yes that is what he is asking .......what break would the 6 handicapper normally achieve .


Impossible question to answer , as it depends on the ability of everyone who enters the comp .

i.e Scratch player makes regular centuries[ best player in the club ] .......so 6 black handicapper would probably make 50's

Scratch player makes regular 70's [ again best player in the club ] .......So 6 Black handicapper would makes 30's


If you get my drift !

Yes but again you have it wrong way around lol
He is saying the handicapper is the better player

[Neil Taperell]

I don't read it that way Jon , how can the 6 black handicapper be the better player

[Neil Taperell]

It is slightly confusing the way it is written .


As the best player should be scratch and then other players are handicapped on their ability .

[jonny66]

We need to know who is the handicapper, and who is the handicapee. Also whether the golfer would use a 9-iron or a sand wedge playing from pink to black.

[Bigmeek]

I agree with Neil. The best player/players in the club or league are scratch and everyone else receives a certain number of blacks start. That's a fairly common system.

[Bigmeek]

PS in my local Sunday night handicap tournament the good players are scratch and the "Really Really Good" can end up Minus 1 black, Minus 2 Blacks etc. The really really good players are (close to) pro standard.

[jrc750]

I agree with Neil. The best player/players in the club or league are scratch and everyone else receives a certain number of blacks start. That's a fairly common system.

I agree that's how normally it works, I think he has gone the other way tho, ie most are on scratch with the better players on - handicap ?

[Big Splash!]

I agree that's how normally it works, I think he has gone the other way tho, ie most are on scratch with the better players on - handicap ?

Yes, so the best in the league would be like 10 black handicap, giving a 70 start or maybe even more - 15 black start?! But as single frames go, players rarely hit their best break, usually just half that. So, I'd expect someone who is a 10 black handicap to achieve 50 breaks on average in a single frame with the odd ton and plenty 30-40s etc. I'd expect someone who is a 6 black (giving 42 start) to hit 35 breaks on average in a single frame with the odd 70 and plenty of 20-30s.