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  • #16
    That`s interesting. What do you mean by 'mechanical'.

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    • #17
      Originally Posted by Whirlbreeze
      That`s interesting. What do you mean by 'mechanical'.
      With mechanical i mean wanting to know how everything works and why.The perfect stance,what differences little movements make.Same with grip and bridge,sightning and alignment.In other words,everything to cue straighter and straighter and to do it consistently.

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      • #18
        Adri147, great **** heads think alike.

        I have never gone along with all this natural talent nonsense.The fact is Hendry has potted more difficult shots than anyone else, more long shots, more everything, his touch around the black spot is better than ronnies, and his record is one of records. That is Natural talent honed by hard work.
        Ronnies talent has been honed by hard work, every player we watch is honed by hard work.
        What you win is how you will and should be judged. Ronnies method at the table may be more pleasing to some but his game did not have the deadlyness of Hendry, and nor the courage.
        Hendrys record will seperate him from the rest, it is sensational, it wasnt workmanlike, and this for me is real natural talent, not the way it has been paraded for the less successful.

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        • #19
          Originally Posted by moondan
          Adri147, great **** heads think alike.

          I have never gone along with all this natural talent nonsense.The fact is Hendry has potted more difficult shots than anyone else, more long shots, more everything, his touch around the black spot is better than ronnies, and his record is one of records. That is Natural talent honed by hard work.
          Ronnies talent has been honed by hard work, every player we watch is honed by hard work.
          What you win is how you will and should be judged. Ronnies method at the table may be more pleasing to some but his game did not have the deadlyness of Hendry, and nor the courage.
          Hendrys record will seperate him from the rest, it is sensational, it wasnt workmanlike, and this for me is real natural talent, not the way it has been paraded for the less successful.
          true and remember this post all those who say hendry is a spend force - HE WILL WIN AGAIN A RANKING EVENT because he believes he can and when people like hendry believe they can do it, they can!!! its about mentality and nobody could ever fault hendry on that!
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          • #20
            I'm not really sure if Hendry will win a rankiong tournament again or not.

            For sure he's capable of winning ranking tournaments with an excellent 5 performances any given week but it's all about finding that right week which is more difficult than it appears with only a few tournaments each season and there being more very good players around than ever. But really right now we must rule out him breaking all records in a repeat of the 1990's when he continually thrashed allcomers, because he has lost the fear factor a long time ago to have everybody running for cover, and there being so few bad players around now and far fewer weak willed players falling apart now the moment Hendry hits a century than ever before.

            Hendry to be invinvible in his 40's? He must be odds of 1000/1. And those aren't unrealistic odds considering the depth around makes the chances of the same 1 man year in year out being exceptional most events while everybody else looking like poor no-hopers most of the time at the same time impossible now. I can't remeber the last time a 40 something was the dominant force in the game. Must have been a long time ago. Certainly not in the last 30 years, so for Hendry to do something in his 40's such as dropping just 3 frames all championship at the Masters or make 556 points without reply that others couldn't achieve in their 20's (the prime age in snooker these days) must be totally ruled out. If O'sullivan, Higgins or Williams in their 20's primes couldnt do that, why should Hendry at 43 or 45 in a 15 years past prime age suddenly be expected do it?

            Talking about natueral talent, I remember Jack Karnehm saying about Hendry being 1 of the most naturally talented players around early in his pro career. How very true. It would have delighted Karnhem and many others who belived the same that Hendry confirmed his natural talent with all those trophies.

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              • #22
                Originally Posted by moondan
                Adri147, great **** heads think alike.

                I have never gone along with all this natural talent nonsense.
                To come back to the original question,of course there is such a thing as natural talent.It's in the genes.To be able to pot balls imidiately is one thing but to have a good feel for speed and rhythm is something else.

                As i said before less talented players can in snooker with hard work always catch up.It takes a lot more then talent only to become the champ.

                Still the talent shows at every level.His fluency and rythem will not win him the tournement,but he will be nice to watch.
                If snooker was more like musis he would,you can teach anybody to play a song on the piano but even if the one without talent practice for a lifetime,he will not be able to play it with the touch and feel from the real talent.

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                • #23
                  he will not be invincible again i agree - i don't think we will get that one player domination again, just look at the various competition winners over the last 5 years say and compare with any previous 5 years i suspect there will be more different winners now and every year more people with the ability to win the odd event come out of the woodwork!
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                  • #24
                    Originally Posted by ADR147
                    he will not be invincible again i agree - i don't think we will get that one player domination again, just look at the various competition winners over the last 5 years say and compare with any previous 5 years i suspect there will be more different winners now and every year more people with the ability to win the odd event come out of the woodwork!
                    A lot of players taking it serious now from a young age(china)so we will see a lot more very good players in the future.I don't think anybody will dominate it again like Hendry or Davis but who knows?

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                    • #25
                      Originally Posted by C-J
                      A lot of players taking it serious now from a young age(china)so we will see a lot more very good players in the future.I don't think anybody will dominate it again like Hendry or Davis but who knows?
                      the standard you would need to play at consistantly now to dominate like they did is beyond what anyone has ever seen. i am not sure its possible.
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                      • #26
                        I don't know...chinese are " different ",the game seems to suits them.They had a lot of good fighters as well still one stood out.....

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                        • #27
                          just not sure regarless of the level of talent we will see domination again there are at leat 40 players on the tour now who could win a competition.
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