Score keeping on a PC

[nbap]

I have been looking on the internet for a score keeping program for snooker. A program called "The Snookerer" keeps popping up, but the link to the download page is "dead".
Is there anyone who know of a freeware program for score keeping, or who have "The Snookerer", and can make a copy available for downloading.

[sArnie]

What exactly do you expect from a Software for "Snooker Scoring"?

What exactly do you expect from a Software for "Snooker Scoring"? What would/should be the benefit compared to using a simple solution based on a spreadsheet software?

[SideShowKeith]

Yeah just knock up an Excel spreadsheet - capable of doing anything that you need it to ... if you know how

[BallStream]

See this link for a good all round solution...

http://www.thesnookerforum.com/board...356#post439356

[Lux]

Score-keeping applications do exist on the Internet, but the only one I have been finding is for Apple Macintosh systems, only.

I am in the process of co-writing a program with a friend to keep track of score during play. The idea is to have it running on a laptop computer on-site. It will track frames won, frame time, score, break, and break time... not unlike the television scoreboards used at professional venues. No release date has been decided upon, yet.

[vucko117]

I have some program for keeping score... I can send it if anyone is interested...

[BallStream]

Score-keeping applications do exist on the Internet, but the only one I have been finding is for Apple Macintosh systems, only.

I am in the process of co-writing a program with a friend to keep track of score during play. The idea is to have it running on a laptop computer on-site. It will track frames won, frame time, score, break, and break time... not unlike the television scoreboards used at professional venues. No release date has been decided upon, yet.

I'm in the middle of rewriting our web scoreboard system for a local version that doesn't need internet. As a scoreboard solution it's almost complete, however I can easily add personal statistics functions. What stats, etc would you like to see in such a system?

[Lux]

I'm in the middle of rewriting our web scoreboard system for a local version that doesn't need internet. As a scoreboard solution it's almost complete, however I can easily add personal statistics functions. What stats, etc would you like to see in such a system?

I'm looking mostly at score, break, break time, frames, and frame time. If it's any inspiration to you, the major component of my design would be keyboard inputs: pressing 1 then 5 would score 1 then 5 points to the visiting player while adding to the break; pressing spacebar is end-of-break and break timer reset.

[Gess]

I'm in the middle of rewriting our web scoreboard system for a local version that doesn't need internet. As a scoreboard solution it's almost complete, however I can easily add personal statistics functions. What stats, etc would you like to see in such a system?

That's pretty much preciesly what I'm looking for. It would be nice to include further statistics like potting percentage, long potting percentage, foul points given etc.

[BallStream]

That's pretty much preciesly what I'm looking for. It would be nice to include further statistics like potting percentage, long potting percentage, foul points given etc.

This sounds like a lot of intense work for whoever does the logging, so perhaps some elaboration of how it's used wmay help. Should it be something that a third uses or the player uses for him self?

So far I have a scoring solution for snooker, billiards, 8-ball, 9-ball and 10-ball which records score progress so that it can be watched via the web. This very same solution I have just recently remodelled so that it will run from almost any computer and provide local scoreboards (without internet). It is this solution that I can include the statistics recording.

But what is the best way to use it and also record for ststistics? For example for a third party scorer to record these statistics it will complicate his task dramatically. Currently the scorer can use keyboard or number pad only and score points or ball numbers, using "0" to change turn of players. Time to make a break or bewtween shots is no problem as it can be calculated automatically. But when it comes to scoring a pot/point and also adding info like "was the pot succsessful, was it only a safety shot, was it a short/long pot, etc that is where the scorer's ask gets complicated.

Nothing is impossible but I need to decide the course of action, so please let me know how YOU would like to use it?

Best thing first would be to have a look at what scoring functions are already vailable by trying the online version...create a demo SCORING account at ballstream.com, create a match and have a play with the score controls.

[Gess]

This sounds like a lot of intense work for whoever does the logging, so perhaps some elaboration of how it's used wmay help. Should it be something that a third uses or the player uses for him self?

I mean that the logging of the statistics should just happen locally on the computer that is using the local score keeper. So that two (or more) players can (locally) be registered for scorekeeping and statistics can be tracked for them.

So far I have a scoring solution for snooker, billiards, 8-ball, 9-ball and 10-ball which records score progress so that it can be watched via the web. This very same solution I have just recently remodelled so that it will run from almost any computer and provide local scoreboards (without internet). It is this solution that I can include the statistics recording.

Yes, that's precisely what I'm looking for.

But what is the best way to use it and also record for ststistics? For example for a third party scorer to record these statistics it will complicate his task dramatically. Currently the scorer can use keyboard or number pad only and score points or ball numbers, using "0" to change turn of players. Time to make a break or bewtween shots is no problem as it can be calculated automatically. But when it comes to scoring a pot/point and also adding info like "was the pot succsessful, was it only a safety shot, was it a short/long pot, etc that is where the scorer's ask gets complicated.

I see what you mean and I think it would indeed need some tweaking of the current scorer, especially the GUI. I think the user would need to be able to use the mouse and have some additional buttons (for example to declare a shot as a 4-, 5-, 6- or 7-point foul, to declare a shot as a long pot, to declare if a shot was a pot attempt or a safety attempt etc.). I understand that this is probably not very easy to implement but it would certainly be a nice feature not only for the 'offline' scorer but for the 'online' one as well.

[BallStream]

I understand that this is probably not very easy to implement but it would certainly be a nice feature not only for the 'offline' scorer but for the 'online' one as well.

Ok, so we keep the existing control and simply add to it, for example adding an "L" to a points score like 5l means long pot on the blue and 0m can be a missed pot.

This might cover it, at least for snooker. What do you think?

[Gess]

Ok, so we keep the existing control and simply add to it, for example adding an "L" to a points score like 5l means long pot on the blue and 0m can be a missed pot.

This might cover it, at least for snooker. What do you think?

Yes, this sounds pretty good. It would also be nice to have something like '0s' for a safety shot and '0ms' an unsucessful safety. This way it should be possible to track statistics like pot, long pot and safety success rate.

Also, in the end of the a frame or match the players should be able to have a look at their statistics (some kind of summary screen as often seen on tv). It would be nice to have the relevant player's statistics saved to their profile so they have 'career stats' which they can look at. Interesting figures for the 'career stats' would for example be 'total points scored', 'highest break', 'frames won vs. frames played' in addition to the regular statisics described above.

[AndyG]

I really think you guys should check out www.mysnookerstats.com which does exactly what you're looking for in a java app which runs on your mobile phone. Keeps all your breaks, potting percentage, shot times, the works. At the end of your game, simply upload the details to an account on the site. You'll have to pay for the service but it's as cheap as chips!!

[BallStream]

I really think you guys should check out www.mysnookerstats.com which does exactly what you're looking for in a java app which runs on your mobile phone. Keeps all your breaks, potting percentage, shot times, the works. At the end of your game, simply upload the details to an account on the site. You'll have to pay for the service but it's as cheap as chips!!

Does this app require that the data be stored online? Could this be expensive to run via a mobile phone?