ball in hand

[archalf1471]

just had this asked by a fellow league member...your opponent goes in off and thus you have ball in hand playing from the "D"...

you are i presume able to place the cue ball on any of the spots...yellow, green or brown and play from?????

At least I have told him you are..............

[The Statman]

Yes. The lines count as 'in'.

[poolqjunkie]

just had this asked by a fellow league member...your opponent goes in off and thus you have ball in hand playing from the "D"...

you are i presume able to place the cue ball on any of the spots...yellow, green or brown and play from?????

At least I have told him you are..............

Wait a minute, do you mean to say they told you you can only shot from either the yellow, green, or brown spot?

[archalf1471]

no no no, the guy was told....after the event that he could not play from the green spot i think it was.....

he played from the spot and the opponent then called a foul on him

[thinsy]

placing the 'in-hand' cueball on the green spot IS A FOUL if the green is on the spot at the time

Sorry my stupid humour playing overtime...

:snooker:

[DawRef]

If the yellow, green or brown spot are not occupied (by this I mean that by placing the cue-ball on that spot, you are not touching another ball), then it is quite fair to place the cue-ball on them and play your intended stroke.

[dantuck_7]

Okay similar situation in billiards - when you have your cue-ball in-hand your meant to play 'down' the table. What happens if yellow and red are on the yellow and green spots can you try and play a screw shot going across the baulk line?

[The Statman]

Okay similar situation in billiards - when you have your cue-ball in-hand your meant to play 'down' the table. What happens if yellow and red are on the yellow and green spots can you try and play a screw shot going across the baulk line?

You must hit a ball or cushion out of baulk, before hitting a ball that is in baulk.

In the situation you describe, both object balls are in baulk (on the line counts as in) so you would not be allowed to hit either ball before first hitting a cushion out of baulk.

[kevy62]

If the yellow, green or brown spot are not occupied (by this I mean that by placing the cue-ball on that spot, you are not touching another ball), then it is quite fair to place the cue-ball on them and play your intended stroke.

I understand the question & your answer ,but i was always advised to always keep the centre axis of the cueball inside the line of the "d" it can touch the line but the larger portion of the cueball must stay inside the "d" to avoid playing a foul.

If you place the cueball directly on the green/yellow spot then a much larger proportion of the cueball is outside of the "d" than is actually inside the "d" so is in fact a foul ??
if placed on the brown spot this could not happen?

The following are fouls and incur a penalty of four points or the higher one prescribed:

a) when the balls are still moving from the previous shot. b) the cue ball more than once (double hit). c) without at least one foot on the floor. d) out of turn. e) improperly from in hand within the Half Circle.

[The Statman]

...The following are fouls and incur a penalty of four points or the higher one prescribed:

a) when the balls are still moving from the previous shot. b) the cue ball more than once (double hit). c) without at least one foot on the floor. d) out of turn. e) improperly from in hand within the Half Circle.

Yes but to define 'improperly' you have to look at the rule which defines playing properly - which states that the cue-ball must be placed on or within the lines
of the D.

[platt]

It is a hard call if the ball is on the line, if the ball is dead centre on the spot than it is a fair shot. Regarding a billiard stroke it for arguement sake the red landed on the green spot and white in hand you can to my knowledge play across the table and strike the outside of the red...

[The Statman]

It is a hard call if the ball is on the line, if the ball is dead centre on the spot than it is a fair shot. Regarding a billiard stroke it for arguement sake the red landed on the green spot and white in hand you can to my knowledge play across the table and strike the outside of the red...

No you cannot.

If a ball is on the line, then it is considered to be in baulk.

You must hit a cushion or ball out of baulk before making contact with a ball in baulk.

If a ball is just off the line, out of baulk, you CAN play directly onto that ball, even if it means the cue-ball has not itself crossed the line at all.

[davidhawkes]

According to World Snooker rules

Section 3, rule 5 Playing from In-hand

To play from in-hand, the cue-ball must be struck from a position on or within the lines of the "D", but it may be played in any direction.
(a) The referee will state, if asked, whether the cue-ball is properly placed (that is, not outside the lines of the "D").
(b) If the tip of the cue should touch the cue-ball while positioning it, and the referee is satisfied that the striker was not attempting to play a stroke, then the cue-ball is not in play.

[kevy62]

Section 3, rule 5 Playing from In-hand

To play from in-hand, the cue-ball must be struck from a position on or within the lines of the "D", but it may be played in any direction.
(a) The referee will state, if asked, whether the cue-ball is properly placed (that is, not outside the lines of the "D").
(b) If the tip of the cue should touch the cue-ball while positioning it, and the referee is satisfied that the striker was not attempting to play a stroke, then the cue-ball is not in play.

nice post, for some reason many players are still unsure (me included), as to what is or is not a foul when playing from a ball in hand situation, this seems to clear things up a bit..

[RocketRoy1983]

The billiards question early on here..Providing the ball crosses the baulk line going up the table before coming back (Ie with extreme left or right hand side) thats fine.