2Rule Questions

[StefanP]

Hi I have some basic rule questions, which aren't mentioned in my snooker-book.

1) Touchingball: Do I have to hit a red, if the white lies press on the blue and my next ball has to be a red? What if my next ball has to be a color?

2) If my opponent pots the white, what opportunities do I have except from placing the white in the half circle and playing from there? Can I force him to place the white in the half circle and playing from there?

Thanks

[Strickimicki]

1) Q:Touchingball: Do I have to hit a red, if the white lies press on the blue and my next ball has to be a red? What if my next ball has to be a color?

A:Yes you do have to hit a red, if you have to play a colour you can nominate the blue in this case or pot any other nominated colour.

2) Q: If my opponent pots the white, what opportunities do I have except from placing the white in the half circle and playing from there? Can I force him to place the white in the half circle and playing from there?

A: You can of course force your opponent to play out of the "D" but it's not a very good move normally, unless there is no safe way bach to balk.

If your opponent misses his object ball altogether before potting the white you can call "miss" if you play that rule. With that you can make him play from where he started before taking his shot that is, but you have to replace all the balls as they were that is sometimes very difficult!


Hope this helps

Brian

[StefanP]

Thanks

Just to be sure:

I can force my opponent to continue playing from where the white ended in any situation where he committed a foul?

[tallguy]

One other point which sometimes causes confusion.

When you nominate the touching ball itself and play away, you have to take care not to move the touching ball. It IS OK to hit any other ball.

For eg. If cue ball is touching blue and you are on a colour, you can nominate blue and play away. Just take care not to move blue or go in-off. You can hit any other ball (red or colour) and maybe put it safe. Be careful not to pot it though.

[tallguy]

Thanks

Just to be sure:

I can force my opponent to continue playing from where the white ended in any situation where he committed a foul?

Yes you can do that.

You can also have a "free ball" if you are snookered after a foul.

[Kyra]

Yes you can do that.

You can also have a "free ball" if you are snookered after a foul.

Correct.
And if a foul is beeing committed by not hitting a ball on a miss can be called additionally. If you chose this you can have the balls replaced to the positions they were in before the shot.

[DawRef]

1. If the cue ball ends up touching a ball 'not on' (in your case, the blue), then you must still play away from the blue and hit the red (Section 3, rule 8(d)). If the blue moves as a result of the stroke, then it will be a foul (Section 3, rule 8(f)).
If you are on a colour, the referee should state, "Touching ball. Please nominate colour". You can nominate the blue and just play away, or you can nominate another colour and hit that (Section 3, rule 8(a), (b) & (c)). However, if, after being asked, you fail to nominate a colour and just play away, you will be penalised 7 points (Section 3, rule 12(d)(v).

2. You have the normal opportunities as you would after any 'foul'. i.e., play the next stroke yourself, let your opponent play the next stroke or, if a 'foul and a miss' have been called, have the balls replaced and your oponent play again. (Section 3, rules 11, 13 & 14).

[Tenko 127]

Its now well over 10yrs since I played snooker. I played for 20yrs in the Ossett and District Snooker League and conformed to amateur rules (once had a rule book many years ago).

The miss rule didn't apply then, it only applied to professionals. Is that different nowadays ?

[DawRef]

The miss rule didn't apply then, it only applied to professionals. Is that different nowadays ?

It applies to both amateur and professionals. However, some leagues, or social games, do not fully enforce it. In one of the leagues I play and referee, it is only enforced if you can see the ball on and fail to hit it. However, If I am refereeing at county or national level, then it is fully enforced.