What causes KICKS?

[dopeytoad]

Mon.... comes through AGAIN!

Thank you so much... that little article does explain the phenolic phenomenon quite well.

And the solution also!!!

"The answer proved to be simple. That is to spray the object balls with Pledge furniture polish (or hair gel), let it dry, then buff them gently with a soft cloth. They are then very slippery, and remain so for dozens of frames."



=o)

Noel

I never knew you could use just normal funiture polish on snooker balls, strange thing that, but would it not cause any damage to the cloth?

[barracuda911]

the balls are TOO slippery wehn you use normal funiture polish, ie pledge etc.
There isn't enough contact made because the balls just slip off each other.
Aramith ball cleaner is best imho.
Seriously, if you want to screw up with someones potting, pledge their balls and watch as they don't pot much.

[noel]

Seriously, if you want to screw up with someones potting, pledge their balls

barracuda9!!...

Trust me, if someone tried to pledge my balls they would receive serious kicks.



=o)

Noel

[alexholowczak]

Does pool have a similar problem with kicks, or is it just snooker?

My (100% untried and untested) theory is that the cueball and object ball are making a double contact. The balls are never rolled in as such, they're always bouncing, but it's unnoticeable to the human eye. When the cueball strikes the object ball, the object ball will be propelled into the bed, rather than perpendicularly to the bed. Therefore, the velocity of the object ball has reduced. Of course, the velocity of the cueball reduces with the collision with the object ball. If the velocity of the cueball after the contact is higher than the velocity of the object ball, then there will be a second contact. This will probably only happen when topspin is used, which is usually when kicks occur in real life. Furthermore, it would explain why pots are missed thick with a kick, because the second contact happens in a different place to the first contact, therefore meaning the pot will be missed. If there is chalk on the table, e.g. if the object ball is resting on some chalk particles, then that would cause the two-contacts.

My "theory" seems to unite all of the possible causes of kicks. :-)

[barracuda911]

Sounds feasible.

Noel... I was waiting for that
LOL

[vmax4steve]

Does pool have a similar problem with kicks, or is it just snooker?

My (100% untried and untested) theory is that the cueball and object ball are making a double contact. The balls are never rolled in as such, they're always bouncing, but it's unnoticeable to the human eye. When the cueball strikes the object ball, the object ball will be propelled into the bed, rather than perpendicularly to the bed. Therefore, the velocity of the object ball has reduced. Of course, the velocity of the cueball reduces with the collision with the object ball. If the velocity of the cueball after the contact is higher than the velocity of the object ball, then there will be a second contact. This will probably only happen when topspin is used, which is usually when kicks occur in real life. Furthermore, it would explain why pots are missed thick with a kick, because the second contact happens in a different place to the first contact, therefore meaning the pot will be missed. If there is chalk on the table, e.g. if the object ball is resting on some chalk particles, then that would cause the two-contacts.

My "theory" seems to unite all of the possible causes of kicks. :-)

Can't see it myself as some pots are not missed after a kick and you still get kicks when applying screw or side.
I would say that chalk or dirt on the balls makes a larger area of contact so that is the reason for balls tending to be missed on the thick side.
Also I think it depends on which ball the chalk or dirt is on. It seems to me that dirty cue ball equals missed pot on the thick side while dirty object ball equals pot not missed but pace on cue ball is slowed dramatically.

To prove any of this certain scenarios would have to be deliberately set up and filmed in super slo mo, until then just instinct and theory.