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  • I went for something, but I withdraw the answer for now.
    "I'll be back next year." --Jimmy White

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    • is the break with free ball allowed, d_g?
      ZIPPIE FOR CHAIRMAN

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      • Originally Posted by April madness
        is the break with free ball allowed, d_g?
        No, sorry April That's why it says "ignoring free balls"

        Just 15 reds with colours, and then the 6 colours.
        "If anybody can knock these three balls in, this man can."
        David Taylor, 11 January 1982, as Steve Davis prepared to pot the blue, in making the first 147 break on television.

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        • Sorry, the free balls rule just escaped my eyes

          Congratulations with turning pink, DG!
          ZIPPIE FOR CHAIRMAN

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          • Thanks April. Pink at last! My life's ambition realised!
            "If anybody can knock these three balls in, this man can."
            David Taylor, 11 January 1982, as Steve Davis prepared to pot the blue, in making the first 147 break on television.

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            • I am changing the scoring, to encourage people to post before the deadline, and to assist people to build on the work of others! So now...

              - 1 point will be awarded to everyone who puts up a bid (and explains how to achieve it) that is higher than all the bids put up previously. So points can be awarded to several people (but only one point per person)

              - an additional point will be awarded to the person who has the highest bid at the final deadline of 23:00 on 24 November (so that person will score 2 points for the round)


              Example:

              Charlie bids 100 (and explains how) ----> 1 point to Charlie
              Gordon bids 101 (and explains how) ----> 1 point to Gordon
              Oliver bids 130 (and explains how) ----> 1 point to Oliver
              Charlie bids 140 (and explains how) ----> no further points, as Charlie already has one
              Oliver bids 200 (and explains how) ----> no further points, as Oliver already has one

              Deadline passes...

              Oliver was highest, so gets a 2nd point
              "If anybody can knock these three balls in, this man can."
              David Taylor, 11 January 1982, as Steve Davis prepared to pot the blue, in making the first 147 break on television.

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              • shall I explain then?

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                • Originally Posted by snookersfun
                  shall I explain then?
                  Yes please. Whoever is the first to put up any bid at all and explain how (provided it is correct) will be guaranteed a point. Can't say easier than that!
                  "If anybody can knock these three balls in, this man can."
                  David Taylor, 11 January 1982, as Steve Davis prepared to pot the blue, in making the first 147 break on television.

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                  • oh, good, didn't want to give all my knowledge away, w.o. the point 100% sure:

                    Here it is and I really hope all pots are valid:
                    For simplicity I just leave the reds out between the colours and count them here: 15 reds-15 points
                    all the following 15 colours go into the respective coloured pockets, thus each counts twice:
                    the sequence, I chose is:
                    1)black-14
                    2)green-6
                    3)blue-10
                    4)pink-12
                    5)yellow-4
                    6)brown-8
                    7)black-14
                    8)green-6
                    9)blue-10
                    10)pink-12
                    11)yellow-4
                    12)brown-8
                    13)black-14
                    14)green-6
                    15)blue-10
                    these are 138 points
                    now for the last 6 colours
                    yellow into green pocket-2
                    green into yellow pocket-3
                    brown into green pocket-4
                    blue into blue pocket-10
                    pink into green pocket-6
                    black into black pocket-14
                    an additional 39 points

                    all in all 138+39+15 = 192 points

                    and now go Semih!
                    (after checking me of course...)

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                    • Looks OK to me! So snookersfun is in there opening the bidding at 192 ... but can it be beaten?

                      1 point so far to snookersfun
                      "If anybody can knock these three balls in, this man can."
                      David Taylor, 11 January 1982, as Steve Davis prepared to pot the blue, in making the first 147 break on television.

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                      • I did a quick computer program on Excel to pot random balls into random pockets (following the rules of the game). I didn't make it go through all the possibilities (there are a lot of them) but I think I set it to have 50 million goes. The highest break it came up with was 169. So it has already been beaten! (Maybe I'll set it for 50 billion goes next...)
                        "If anybody can knock these three balls in, this man can."
                        David Taylor, 11 January 1982, as Steve Davis prepared to pot the blue, in making the first 147 break on television.

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                        • Originally Posted by davis_greatest
                          I did a quick computer program on Excel to pot random balls into random pockets (following the rules of the game). I didn't make it go through all the possibilities (there are a lot of them) but I think I set it to have 50 million goes. The highest break it came up with was 169. So it has already been beaten! (Maybe I'll set it for 50 billion goes next...)

                          the triumph of human intelligence over excel

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                          • Originally Posted by snookersfun

                            the triumph of human intelligence over excel
                            Hehe! Of course, I can also use Excel to calculate the optimal solution, rather than just making it pot balls randomly lots of times and seeing which one gives the highest break.
                            "If anybody can knock these three balls in, this man can."
                            David Taylor, 11 January 1982, as Steve Davis prepared to pot the blue, in making the first 147 break on television.

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                            • ...I wanted to add 'while it lasts'
                              If you would do that, would you have the steps as well? Anyway, why don't you?

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                              • Originally Posted by snookersfun
                                ...I wanted to add 'while it lasts'
                                If you would do that, would you have the steps as well? Anyway, why don't you?
                                Yes, of course I would have the steps. It's just a case of finding the time. I'm a bit rusty so I think to figure out the optimal solution might take me the best part of an hour. Writing the program to pot balls randomly, according to the rules, was much quicker.
                                "If anybody can knock these three balls in, this man can."
                                David Taylor, 11 January 1982, as Steve Davis prepared to pot the blue, in making the first 147 break on television.

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