Puzzles with numbers and things

[Semih_Sayginer]

snookersfun! If it is possible, I want to see how.

its possible. ive cut up my ikea grid and stuck it to my screen. can you see it ok from there?

And if it's not possible, I want to know why not.

its not possible. i went to my local club. cut the cloth from the table. made a few boxes of scale size, and tried it. i can post you the bits of cloth. (or stick them to my screen too)

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[davis_greatest]

its possible. ive cut up my ikea grid and stuck it to my screen. can you see it ok from there?






its not possible. i went to my local club. cut the cloth from the table. made a few boxes of scale size, and tried it. i can post you the bits of cloth. (or stick them to my screen too)

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I can't see your screen from here, but if it's a 42" plasma screen with surround sound system, perhaps you could get it delivered, and I'll evaluate your solution?

[Semih_Sayginer]

I can't see your screen from here, but if it's a 42" plasma screen with surround sound system, perhaps you could get it delivered, and I'll evaluate your solution?

ill give NASA a call and ask them if theyll fly the equipment to the moon for you.

[snookersfun]

If I gave points for guesses, you'd have just found your name on the scoreboard.

Now I can tell you definitely, that if you move your toilett from the corner (and you have 4 symmetrical options here), you can make the fit

[davis_greatest]

Move my toilet?

It's a nice bathroom, so don't you spoil it;
I'm wondering if you have gone potty?
It doesn't belong to me, that toilet -
It belongs to silly Mr Dotty.

[Obligation]

lol Semih,

DG, I'm looking at this one, and reminds me of another problem, I don't think it's possible, and I'm working on a proof.

[snookersfun]

lol
OK, boils down to this, toilet stays, no tiling!
Cause, if you devide the original 64 squares into three types of sqares (in sequence), you'll have to remove one of those, that would be in a spot (and now my explanation gets confusing) with rotational symmetry (1/4 turns).

[davis_greatest]

lol
OK, boils down to this, toilet stays, no tiling!
Cause, if you devide the original 64 squares into three types of sqares (in sequence), you'll have to remove one of those, that would be in a spot (and now my explanation gets confusing) with rotational symmetry (1/4 turns).

Um, not sure I follow where you are using rotational symmetry in this? Perhaps it would help if I rephrased the question:

This Dotty's bathroom, to be fair
Without the bath, is nice and square;
It's not that huge, it's eight by eight -
The toilet's small, it ain't that great;
(And when Dotty goes, you'll gasp for air.)

He lays out the cloths, of one by three,
Gets down upon his bended knee;
He can't make them fit, it's not much fun -
He turns some round, now three by one;
(But can he make them fit perfectly?)

[Obligation]

Ok,

Not possible.

Cut the square into a 6x6 square and two rows - 8x1, 7x1

It is possible to arrange in a 6x6 (using 16 pieces), so we a left with rows of 7x1 and 8x1

By this point we have 5 pieces left.

We can lay down 4 more strips, and we are left with a square - 2x2.

Our remaining cloth is only 3x1.

[snookersfun]

Without the bath, is nice and square;

now you are confusing me, with the bath it's square, isn't it? And what about the red door and the blue ceiling,... and anyway, I give up, can't explain it better.
But no way to tile it!!!

[Obligation]

And essentialy, 49 (7x7) is not divisible by 3, which means two rows are bound to be left.

[snookersfun]

Obli, you lost a piece.... or more lol
It's 8x8 -1 = 63

[davis_greatest]

now you are confusing me, with the bath it's square, isn't it? And what about the red door and the blue ceiling,... and anyway, I give up, can't explain it better.
But no way to tile it!!!

I meant the floor area excluding where the bath is. Poetic shorthand. The whole room is 80 square feet. The bath takes up 16 square feet. The toilet takes up 1 square foot. 63 square feet left.

So yes, "with" or "without" the bath, depending on which way you look at it!

If you have some paint left from painting the door, ceiling and walls, can this help?

[davis_greatest]

And essentialy, 49 (7x7) is not divisible by 3, which means two rows are bound to be left.

Yes, you have lost me! There are 21 pieces of cloth, each 3 feet by 1 foot.

And 63 square feet to cover.

[snookersfun]

If you have some paint left from painting the door, ceiling and walls, can this help?

yes! Mix them all up, until you get the exact shade of green and paint the bl##dy final area, there!




(I know, you'll never get green that way)