Ssb - oneforseven launched

[RGCirencester]

i think you dont like the idea of 147 being presented a snooker tournament. but now that we have discovered spooker, lets see how it goes and maybe people will like it and spooker will live long and prosper.

LOL I love your Spooker Tee Shirt Jaaaaaa I want one!

[leeroygor]

trying out new scoring system and encouraging people to shout, drink, phone one another from opposite ends of the arena and throw popcorn at the players is fine, they deserve it anyway.

but what did the poor little ball in hand rule ever do to you? it lived its quiet live inside the D and now its homeless and confused >.<

but as long as steve davis is happy with spooker...

the black is 7 points you russian.

[ja.]

the black is 7 points you russian.

surely you cant be serious???

[twentytwo]

Lots of the points discussed on this thread have actually been answered here...
http://www.global-snooker.com/onefor...ing-points.asp

[Migtsf]

Abd migtsf, I just wanted to add my opinion on your idea. If any new format wins the sponsorship battle and replace traditional snooker, I don't think it'll be limited to just fun. I mean, let's think for a moment that WC is gone and instead we have OneFourSeven to decide the world champion. Which player would just play it for just entertainment? The competition comes with money, as well as ambition. But still, it is very unlikely to get a better format than the current one and these events will just stick around as minor events, generally.

Of course players will enter in the spirit and will try to win it, the same way we do when we’re playing a card game or some other silly game with money involved. The thing is 147 is not about finding who is the best player at snooker. It’s just about providing an entertainment show featuring snooker players, much like an exhibition of some sort.

I agree with Guru - this is not trying to hijack the Crucible!

As far as the sport v entertainment argument! The current crowd at snooker matches is more like theatre (entertainment) than darts, cricket, tennis, golf (clearly sport) - so Mig is kind of arguing against themselves.

And anyway, why look at it so extreme - it doesnt say that the crowd has to be noisy - it looks like the open-plan arena the players will distract each other nealry all of the players practice day in day out in clubs where it is far from silent.

I have never heard a player say that they need silence - it has just been assumed! If ONEFORSEVEN tries it and the players dont like it - they wont play and it will fall on its arse! My guess is that most players will like the change!

None of those sports mentioned require from players the same levels of concentration, therefore noise doesn’t interfere as much with the performance of players. There's a reason why snooker has been played all these years in a quiet environment. If there were no advantages in it, surely crowds wouldn’t have been restrained from making noise all this time.

Players are saying it’s ok now because they are being pressed to accept these changes. After all, this game is their job and at this point, without other alternatives, they will say yes to pretty much anything that puts money into their banking accounts.

[twentytwo]

Of course players will enter in the spirit and will try to win it, the same way we do when we’re playing a card game or some other silly game with money involved. The thing is 147 is not about finding who is the best player at snooker. It’s just about providing an entertainment show featuring snooker players, much like an exhibition of some sort.



None of those sports mentioned require from players the same levels of concentration, therefore noise doesn’t interfere as much with the performance of players. There's a reason why snooker has been played all these years in a quiet environment. If there were no advantages in it, surely crowds wouldn’t have been restrained from making noise all this time.

Players are saying it’s ok now because they are being pressed to accept these changes. After all, this game is their job and at this point, without other alternatives, they will say yes to pretty much anything that puts money into their banking accounts.

Sorry, I didnt realise there was unit of measure for the amount of concentration required in various sports. You can't be serious with that statement...

I would like to hear what Ricky Ponting, Roger Federer, Phil Taylor or Tiger Woods thought about that.

All sport requires concentration - end of!

The fact remains that a high proportion of today's players practise on a daily basis in a club environment, with music on (some with ipods on) and are still able to concentrate - according to the report of the first event, Andrew Pagett made two century breaks, so to say that noise interferes with their performance is clearly lost in the first showing!

I can see that if there is total silence, and someone makes a sudden noise, coughing, mobile phone whatever - it would be dsitracting. However, where a constant noise is present - the sound of people talking to each other in the crowd for example - talking about the on table action (perfectly reasonable I would of thought!) - the mobile phones and cough would be lost and actually become less distracting.

[Migtsf]

I’d like to hear it from Federer and Woods too. Let them say how many shots ahead they have to plan every time.

It’s absurd to suggest the game can be played at the same standard with a crowd noise. Crowd behaviour is unpredictable. They can shout and say and do things to interfere with players’ concentration. If it was the same, the game wouldn’t have been played all these years in a quiet atmosphere in the first place.

It doesn’t matter though because what oneforseven is trying to do is bring the same rubbish that goes on in darts to snooker, where the event is supposed to be a night out with a match in the background going on. Nobody there cares if the standard of game is going to be good or bad.

Perhaps a better name for oneforseven is oneeightzero.

[leeroygor]

I’d like to hear it from Federer and Woods too. Let them say how many shots ahead they have to plan every time.

It’s absurd to suggest the game can be played at the same standard with a crowd noise. Crowd behaviour is unpredictable. They can shout and say and do things to interfere with players’ concentration. If it was the same, the game wouldn’t have been played all these years in a quiet atmosphere in the first place.

It doesn’t matter though because what oneforseven is trying to do is bring the same rubbish that goes on in darts to snooker, where the event is supposed to be a night out with a match in the background going on. Nobody there cares if the standard of game is going to be good or bad.

Perhaps a better name for oneforseven is oneeightzero.

LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

so funny Mig. I like it. 180 one eight zero... because of the darts likeness.

i could read your posts all day.

[ja.]

The thing is 147 is not about finding who is the best player at snooker.

obviously not because its about finding the best player at 147

The fact remains that a high proportion of today's players practise on a daily basis in a club environment, with music on (some with ipods on) and are still able to concentrate - according to the report of the first event, Andrew Pagett made two century breaks, so to say that noise interferes with their performance is clearly lost in the first showing!

I can see that if there is total silence, and someone makes a sudden noise, coughing, mobile phone whatever - it would be dsitracting. However, where a constant noise is present - the sound of people talking to each other in the crowd for example - talking about the on table action (perfectly reasonable I would of thought!) - the mobile phones and cough would be lost and actually become less distracting.

zactly. even hendo and jimmy are saying that they play better in practice than in tournaments i know its the case of pressure and all so the noise really not an issue here.

and leeroy you are a big ginger toad.

[ja.]

It’s absurd to suggest the game can be played at the same standard with a crowd noise. Crowd behaviour is unpredictable. They can shout and say and do things to interfere with players’ concentration. If it was the same, the game wouldn’t have been played all these years in a quiet atmosphere in the first place.

[Migtsf]

... infidels!

[ja.]

http://www.global-snooker.com/global...ete-091210.asp

i think its great that they've got reanne in. good choice oneforseven

[ja.]

http://www.global-snooker.com/global...VEN-091218.asp

[ore]

http://www.global-snooker.com/global...VEN-091218.asp

Must of seen he's meeting Reanne early in the draw again?

[ja.]

Must of seen he's meeting Reanne early in the draw again?

thats what i thought too.

never mind waldo. come on reanne!!!