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    Professional snooker owes its rise to the TV big time to the BBC above anything else.

    It was the BBC who showed black and white matches, usually featuring Joe Davis, as fillers between racing and other sports on Saturday afternoons in the 1950s.

    It was the BBC that brought the viewing public Pot Black in colour, which made household names of the players of the 1970s.

    And it was the BBC who took the decision to televise the 1978 World Championship at the Crucible from first ball to last, which led to the explosion of interest in the 1980s and the creation of the professional circuit as we know it today.

    But what is the future for the sport on a BBC that now finds itself in a crowded broadcasting marketplace having to defend its use of the licence fee?

    This week, it's director general, Mark Thompson, pledged to cut services to plough more money into programme making but also to cap the BBC's spend on sports right to 9% of the licence fee.

    Today's Daily Mirror newspaper claims Thompson "wants snooker and darts off BBC2."

    They do not quote him directly but the BBC's Strategy Review document proposes to 'reduce the volume of sport on BBC2.' As snooker is currently broadcast for many hours on this channel there must be fears that it is one of the sports that will be shifted elsewhere - or even scrapped altogether.

    This would seriously threaten snooker's future as a top level TV sport.

    Of its sports rights strategy, the BBC document states: "[we will] Continue to provide a home for major sporting events, free-to-air, as well as a broad range of other sport. The strategy for sports rights will, however, prioritise the list of the most important events for free-to-air coverage followed by sports with particular public service potential (such as Olympic sports and the Commonwealth Games) and others that deliver significant value to licence fee payers, recognising that the BBC needs to set a clear limit on how much it can invest."

    Snooker is, of course, not an Olympic or Commonwealth sport.

    The current BBC contract runs out at the end of next season. Barry Hearn, the WPBSA chairman, has been to see the corporation but no new contract has yet been announced.

    It would be a surprise to everyone if it wasn't agreed but snooker has few options if the worst did happen.

    Sky has shown little interest in snooker in recent years. ITV hasn't screened a tournament for the best part of a decade.

    I would expect the BBC to sign another contract but for a reduced fee and possibly for three rather than four tournaments.

    Make no mistake, though: if they decide their love affair with the green baize game can no longer be justified in the current economic climate, or that it simply doesn't fit in with their view of what the BBC should be, snooker is going to find itself in very serious trouble.



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  • #2
    Hopefully they won't do that...
    Snooker is just like every sport in this world..
    BBC should think of adding more sports or have more live snooker on air...

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    • #3
      worrying news indeed... I really hope the bbc don't scrap snooker...
      I'd be lost without tournaments on the bbc
      sigpic A Truly Beakerific Long Pot Sir!

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      • #4
        We'll just have to complain a lot.

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        • #5
          Originally Posted by mysockpuppet View Post
          professional snooker owes its rise to the tv big time to the bbc above anything else.

          It was the bbc who showed black and white matches, usually featuring joe davis, as fillers between racing and other sports on saturday afternoons in the 1950s.

          It was the bbc that brought the viewing public pot black in colour, which made household names of the players of the 1970s.

          And it was the bbc who took the decision to televise the 1978 world championship at the crucible from first ball to last, which led to the explosion of interest in the 1980s and the creation of the professional circuit as we know it today.

          But what is the future for the sport on a bbc that now finds itself in a crowded broadcasting marketplace having to defend its use of the licence fee?

          This week, it's director general, mark thompson, pledged to cut services to plough more money into programme making but also to cap the bbc's spend on sports right to 9% of the licence fee.

          Today's daily mirror newspaper claims thompson "wants snooker and darts off bbc2."

          they do not quote him directly but the bbc's strategy review document proposes to 'reduce the volume of sport on bbc2.' as snooker is currently broadcast for many hours on this channel there must be fears that it is one of the sports that will be shifted elsewhere - or even scrapped altogether.

          This would seriously threaten snooker's future as a top level tv sport.

          Of its sports rights strategy, the bbc document states: "[we will] continue to provide a home for major sporting events, free-to-air, as well as a broad range of other sport. The strategy for sports rights will, however, prioritise the list of the most important events for free-to-air coverage followed by sports with particular public service potential (such as olympic sports and the commonwealth games) and others that deliver significant value to licence fee payers, recognising that the bbc needs to set a clear limit on how much it can invest."

          snooker is, of course, not an olympic or commonwealth sport.

          The current bbc contract runs out at the end of next season. Barry hearn, the wpbsa chairman, has been to see the corporation but no new contract has yet been announced.

          It would be a surprise to everyone if it wasn't agreed but snooker has few options if the worst did happen.

          Sky has shown little interest in snooker in recent years. Itv hasn't screened a tournament for the best part of a decade.

          I would expect the bbc to sign another contract but for a reduced fee and possibly for three rather than four tournaments.

          Make no mistake, though: If they decide their love affair with the green baize game can no longer be justified in the current economic climate, or that it simply doesn't fit in with their view of what the bbc should be, snooker is going to find itself in very serious trouble.



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          hi the people that watch snooker should complain to the bbc that they should not remove snooker from the bbc the more people complain the bbc will understand

          its a great sport and it would be very bad for snooker and if they do that snooker will go downhill

          i hope that barry hearn will take care of this situtation
          leonard from canada

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          • #6
            Originally Posted by RGCirencester View Post
            worrying news indeed... I really hope the bbc don't scrap snooker...
            I'd be lost without tournaments on the bbc
            the BBC Needs snooker just as much if not more than Snooker needs them.

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            • #7
              Originally Posted by wildJONESEYE View Post
              the BBC Needs snooker just as much if not more than Snooker needs them.

              I am not entirely sure that is how they think.

              since the introduction fo the 'red button' the amount of snooker coverage shown as part of the usual schedule has been reduced.
              They do broadcast a 'Snooker Extra' programme late at night, but anyone who follows the game will probably already know the results, and more likely, have already watched the interactive coverage.

              We live in a time where Football (Soccer) is king, a limited budget will not stop them purchasing rights to show Premier League highlights, nor attempting to get live coverage rights.
              Last edited by pigeonslayer; 3 March 2010, 03:39 PM. Reason: spelling error gave incorrect meaning to final statement

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              • #8
                Originally Posted by wildJONESEYE View Post
                the BBC Needs snooker just as much if not more than Snooker needs them.
                I don't think so.

                The BBC has many oither things going for them.

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                • #9
                  Originally Posted by wildJONESEYE View Post
                  the BBC Needs snooker just as much if not more than Snooker needs them.
                  You need to take your blinkers off
                  TSF World Champion 2010
                  TSF Snooker Prediction Contest Overall Champion 2006/07
                  BBC Snooker Prediction Contest Overall Champion 2005/06

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                  • #10
                    If anyone can help snooker it has to be Barry Hearn so lets all cross our fingers and toes and pray like mad that he can help the game we all and care about so much.
                    I for one would be heartbroken if we lost snooker of the tv, maybe knowing Barrys connections Sky would take it on, we surely nee d many more high level sponsors too.

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                    • #11
                      I read they are planning loads of cut backs, and are reducing the budget for sport. We have to make sure snooker is not affected. It would kill us and the game if it wasn't on the BBC.

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                      • #12
                        I would hate to see snooker dropped from BBC, but you have to have a degree of sympathy with BBC's view. Here are the viewing figures from BARB for the climax Bank Holiday Monday evening final session of the World Championships for the last 11 years (as far back as their online data goes):

                        1999 6.02 Stephen Hendry v Mark Williams 18–11
                        2000 5.76 Mark Williams v Matthew Stevens 18–16
                        2001 4.86 Ronnie O'Sullivan v John Higgins 18–14
                        2002 4.56 Peter Ebdon v Stephen Hendry 18–17
                        2003 5.28 Mark Williams v Ken Doherty 18–16
                        2004 3.79 Ronnie O'Sullivan v Graeme Dott 18–8
                        2005 4.79 Shaun Murphy v Matthew Stevens 18–16
                        2006 3.65 Graeme Dott v Peter Ebdon 18–14
                        2007 3.44 John Higgins v Mark Selby 18–13
                        2008 3.59 Ronnie O'Sullivan v Ali Carter 18–8
                        2009 3.04 John Higgins v Shaun Murphy 18–9

                        In ten years, the audience has halved, and still seems to be on a downward trend.
                        Last edited by Souwester; 3 March 2010, 04:29 PM.

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                        • #13
                          Originally Posted by Souwester View Post
                          I would hate to see snooker dropped from BBC, but you have to have a degree of sympathy with BBC's view. Here are the viewing figures from BARB for the climax Bank Holiday Monday evening final session of the World Championships for the last 11 years (as far back as their online data goes):

                          1999 6.02 Stephen Hendry v Mark Williams 18–11
                          2000 5.76 Mark Williams v Matthew Stevens 18–16
                          2001 4.86 Ronnie O'Sullivan v John Higgins 18–14
                          2002 4.56 Peter Ebdon v Stephen Hendry 18–17
                          2003 5.28 Mark Williams v Ken Doherty 18–16
                          2004 3.79 Ronnie O'Sullivan v Graeme Dott 18–8
                          2005 4.79 Shaun Murphy v Matthew Stevens 18–16
                          2006 3.65 Graeme Dott v Peter Ebdon 18–14
                          2007 3.44 John Higgins v Mark Selby 18–13
                          2008 3.59 Ronnie O'Sullivan v Ali Carter 18–8
                          2009 3.04 John Higgins v Shaun Murphy 18–9

                          In ten years, the audience has halved, and still seems to be on a downward trend.
                          i think you will find audiences across the board has halved not just snooker it could have something to do with more internet coverage which has changed the viewing habits of people.

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                          • #14
                            Yes, but OBs - 17 days for the WCs and whatever it is for the other tournaments - are notoriously expensive, which is why there's been a move towards cheaper and cheaper programmes in recent years.

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                            • #15
                              The recent two probably aren't helped by the fact that the matches were particularly one-sided and pretty much over by Monday morning either.
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