Ssb - lee doyle resigns from wpbsa board

[loopy2]

"If Barry Hearn makes loads of money from the game - great - because that will mean the game is earning money and so will the players!! At least with Hearn I think everyone will know exactly where the money is going and to whom.And if not surely the Board will be voted off."

Barry Hearn with 51% will be "the board". Hence Doyles resignation.

[wildJONESEYE]

terry

no player should have any influance through a manager or anything on the board each man for themself treating every issue on merit and not for themselfes or who they manage.

[s.h442]

Hopefully the exit of lee doyle will turn out to be a good thing- get rid of all the self interest that has ruined the game for years.I just hope all the players see sense and back barry otherwise the game is finished.

[bonoman1970]

its just a shame there isnt an unbiased snooker loving top businessman in charge right now ! or maybe there is ?

[ferret]

This post is in reply to Terry's post above.

I have mentioned on here before that a large betting company which I will not mention the name of put in a bid to stream the qualifying in to their betting shops and this generous offer was declined for a lesser offer which was produced by 110Sport. So yeah its not what you know but who you know.

Its the whole conflict of interest story being used here that I find interesting.

As a manager of players and promoter of rival events in important territories like China, Lee’s position as a Board Director, where confidential information becomes available to effectively a competitor, has become untenable

1st thing both Pat Mooney and Brandon Parker are managers of players so why mention this!

2nd Pat Mooney and Brandon Parker are both promoters of rival event, its just that theirs have been in incorporated into The WPBSA calendar, which again raised another point of WHY?

Why would you basically give your profitable events away! I mean both Pat and Brandon could continue running their independent events separately from their roles at The WPBSA no problem, by giving them to The WPBSA are they not throwing away all of the profit form these events? I mean they get their salary and expenses from The WPBSA if they keep their events separate or not.

So basically what I am trying to say is that their must be a motive behind this. Also when is The Premier League Snooker going to be given to The WPBSA and run as a World Snooker event......... Everybody else has given up something or purchased their way onto the board!!

Hay just food for thought and I am sure next time I speak with Mr Hearn everything will be cleared up, the problem is there are way too many factors to get everything right and when you start speculating one thing that leads to another and another and another then in the end you have a whole conspiracy theory about how people are teaming up with others to take over the game (As I have demonstrated above)

As I will not be going to The World Championships this year I have a little free time on my hands so how about me seeing if we can setup a live web chat with the members and Barry Hearn.

[nugget1234]

Ssb - lee doyle resigns from wpbsa board

Exactly the kind of thing snooker could have done without just before the start of the WC's. Hope this gets sorted as soon as possible, otherwise there's no future for the sport.

[bonoman1970]

Why dont we all just put snooker out of its misery,
Its been dying a long slow painful death for the past 15 years or so
There is no bright future for it , how on earth can B.Hearn promote the players of the future when all he has got is ,O'Sullivan ,Higgins,Hendry, Davis,all older gents.
There really is no one worth watching in or in the now or next generation,
snooker will die a long and painful death unless everyone gets out now!!!!!!!!!!!
Just put it to bed
RIP SNOOKER!

[wildJONESEYE]

Why dont we all just put snooker out of its misery,
Its been dying a long slow painful death for the past 15 years or so
There is no bright future for it , how on earth can B.Hearn promote the players of the future when all he has got is ,O'Sullivan ,Higgins,Hendry, Davis,all older gents.
There really is no one worth watching in or in the now or next generation,
snooker will die a long and painful death unless everyone gets out now!!!!!!!!!!!
Just put it to bed
RIP SNOOKER!

on the table the sport is better than its ever been however at board level it takes a lot to be desired.

we need to move on with hearn now and stop this idiotic ****e.

[ore]

Why dont we all just put snooker out of its misery, <..>
Just put it to bed
RIP SNOOKER!

Ain't that even worse than lee doyle's plan?

[ore]

Why exactly is lee doyle's resigantion so bad?

Is it mostly because players managed by top110 sport are now likely to vote against Hearn's plan?
Other than that, his place in the board will be simply replaced by someone else, big deal.

I have mentioned on here before that a large betting company which I will not mention the name of put in a bid to stream the qualifying in to their betting shops and this generous offer was declined for a lesser offer which was produced by 110Sport. So yeah its not what you know but who you know.

Players should know about that surely. Should be quite a hint for whom not to vote.
Qualifying wasn't streamed as much as I remember (on a regular and live basis).
And actually it's the lower end of the tour that should be angry about this.

[Looki]

Why exactly is lee doyle's resigantion so bad?

Is it mostly because players managed by top110 sport are now likely to vote against Hearn's plan?
Other than that, his place in the board will be simply replaced by someone else, big deal.

Pulling this stunt so shortly before the election may cause confusion among other players too. Especially among the lower ranked player with Ebdon and Mark Davis doing their little campaign against the whole thing. There should be absolute integrity in the board about everything, Doyle's resignment could shake players' confidence towards the current board. Doyle should've walked a long time ago. Unless he's got his own agenda and the time he chose to resign was calculated.

Hopefully players won't fall into trap that there's some mysterious other plan for the better future, voting against Hearn's plans would mean going back to the times of Walker and others or worse.

[1lawyer]

Cutting off nose to spite face?

If 110 sport stand for their players best interest. Why do this?

1. Promoters take a percentage of player earnings under contract
2. The more events there are, the more prize money, the more they earn.

Makes no sense to me. If someone was willing to come in and do all this this new promotion. I would rather work with them than against them.

I hope this is a secret ballot and the players are not under any influence when they vote. (i don't mean drunk)
What I mean is players look in your wage packet...if these guys are taking 20 or 30 or 40 per cent off you are they REALLY your friends?

Snooker is full of self interested parties makes me sick. The game should be run by businessmen but overseen fairly by an independent board. Whose members take only what is in the interest of the sport as a whole.
Too many people in snooker on the board might be bias when it comes to making decisions.

Here stick this in your constitution

Ethos and rules.

1. Put the interests of the sport (Players and fans first).
2. Don't take any crap.
3. Get a woman on the board
4. If in doubt remember rule 1.

:snooker:

[KelvinJones]

My heart sank when I read that Lee Doyles resignation may mean that Barry Hearn's leadership is in doubt. Surely everyone who has the best interests of Snooker in their heart knows that he is desperately needed to save the game that many of us love.

[ADR147]

well i for one must say i am not even remotely suprised.

[StevieB13147]

Wee Thought!

Lee Doyle and EVERYONE else are entitled to do, say and act as they wish, (as long as they are not being offensive or derogatory) given that we are a country with those freedoms (are we not?)
Bary Hearns ideas need to be given a chance to see if Mr H can revamp and grow the game as some people think it should be.

However, for the players (members) to sell out (give over) their ownership of the game to a big juicy dangling carrot may well prove to be the worst move ever by the voting fraternity of WPBSA.
Time will be the only teller of that scenario.

Personally, I am neither here nor there on the rights and wrongs of the proposed set up (being a life long trier of a hammer thrower at the game it wont personally affect me!), but I will predict that should Barry be handed the commercial game of Snooker, and "if" it all goes bums up in a few years for players.
Then it wont be long before "a group" is formed to wrestle the game game back from Mr Hearn. Bare in mind that Barry may well by then have created a Snooker moneymaking rollercoaster all of his own (51%!).

If BH's commercial set up is by then "the face" of Snooker throughout the world then I wouldn't imagine Barry would be too upset at handing "the rules and the Billiards" back to those that want them, while he continues to OWN the lucrative commercial side of Snooker.

The dilema in all of this is that the reality of the business world is: Virtually no "businessman" alive that would involve himself under any other criteria.
However, this may not be the case if Snooker could find a multi-millionaire, Snooker loving, philanthropist, businessman willing to put his time, effort and expertise into the game for everyone else's benefit without a controlling final say on the matter.
I would imagine if the above was the bones of an advertisement seeking such a person that the queue would not extended much further past the bull.......s and delusional big players that would through their hat into the ring.

I pray that my thoughts are 100% wrong and that all will be rosey in the Snooker Garden for many, many years to come.
Although, my schoolteachers will confirm that I always was a bit of a euphoric dreamer.

(The above is only my personal thoughts and I wish no one any offence or indifference by them - let's all stand back and watch over the coming years - it will be interesting if nothing else!)

Stevie Baillie

PS Why do folk with strong views and who tout "you can have this as gospel" etc
Always seem to post as "Anonymous"?
Just a thought!

PPS As for no new players coming through, I still remember watching a young Mark Allan win the European U19's, stood and marvelled at his Black Ball final frame win over Malta's Alex Borg to take the Mens European Championship title in Volkermart, Austria and also watched almost every shot he played in Veldhoven, Holland when he beat former IBSF Winner Steve Mifsud (Australia) to win the 2004 IBSF Mens World Championship.
An unquestionable exceptional talent and one that I, alongwith a very good friend of mine, predicted in 2004 would one day win the WSA World Championship! (I have never predicted any other player to do so)
We have 4 years left for that prophetic statement to come true, and if it doesn't, then Mark's rise into the top 16 in 3 seasons only bares out that we knew back then the game was in safe hands with that sort of talent coming through.
He is not the only one - there are many, many more kids that given the playing opportunity's will most definetly move on up to greater things in the game - and keep old codgers like me glued to our screens for many years to come.
Amen!