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  • #16
    Well i think if all charges were dropped then he should be allowed to enter , but has he was found guilty of bringing the game into disrepute and was suspended at the time of registration then i dont think he should be allowed entry .

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    • #17
      Originally Posted by hotpot View Post
      Well i think if all charges were dropped then he should be allowed to enter , but has he was found guilty of bringing the game into disrepute and was suspended at the time of registration then i dont think he should be allowed entry .
      Now that is a fair point and a good point he hasn't been acquitted of Bringing this game in to disrepute therefore why should the game he brought in to disrepute help him ?

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      • #18
        Originally Posted by Looki View Post
        WPBSA: Do the right thing and grant him the exception! Otherwise the verdict in reality is harder than the one he was sentenced to.
        I agree. I can´t see that it can be any other way.
        ....its not called potting its called snooker. Quote: WildJONESEYE
        "Its called snooker not potting" Quote: Rory McLeod

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        • #19
          Originally Posted by wildJONESEYE View Post
          it has to be a player vote if rules are relaxed how fair would that be on them for someone in a office to decide to change rules.

          if the majority said ok let John play then let him play in the UK if the majority sais no then thats that
          So be it then, sounds fair to me.

          I'm pretty sure that it would be ok for most players that Higgins plays in the UK.

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          • #20
            higgins

            Whatever happened to the assupmtion of innocent until proven guilty? Higgins was rightly suspended in light of NoTW`s allegations. But he was proven
            innocent.

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            • #21
              Originally Posted by maryfield View Post
              Whatever happened to the assupmtion of innocent until proven guilty? Higgins was rightly suspended in light of NoTW`s allegations. But he was proven
              innocent.
              He was,nt he was found guilty of the lesser charge of bringing the game into disrepute .

              So not completely innocent

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              • #22
                To be honest, it's a pretty poor situation. Those that dished out the ban should have seen this situation anyway and just banned him for 8 or 9 months. Either that, or made it clear when he was suspended that he could still apply to enter tournaments. It isn't that difficult.

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                • #23
                  Originally Posted by maryfield View Post
                  Whatever happened to the assupmtion of innocent until proven guilty? Higgins was rightly suspended in light of NoTW`s allegations. But he was proven
                  innocent.
                  innocent of match fixing not innocent of bringing this game in to disrepute thats why he is banned.

                  you cant just drop that fact

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                  • #24
                    He was declared guilty for, and I quote:

                    'intentionally giving the impression to others that they were agreeing to act in breach of the Betting Rules' and 'failing to disclose promptly to the Association full details of an approach or invitation to act in breach of the Betting Rule'
                    Last edited by Migtsf; 10 September 2010, 11:20 PM. Reason: removal of wrong information
                    2008-09 Prediction Champion

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                    • #25
                      If he doesn't play in any of these events, Ronnie might win as many as rtwo of them, which is good

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                      • #26
                        Originally Posted by gavpowell View Post
                        If he doesn't play in any of these events, Ronnie might win as many as rtwo of them, which is good
                        and yet again he might win nothing and then will show the decline setting in

                        Having Higgins in it is a good excuse as to why Ronnie did not win a event without Higgins there you might have to concede other players are now better than him also.

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                        • #27
                          John Higgins

                          The WPBSA announcement includes the lines, “Having studied all of the evidence in its entirety, the WPBSA and Sports Resolutions accept that there has been no dishonesty on the part of John Higgins and accordingly the WPBSA has withdrawn the allegations of match fixing against him.”

                          What part of this do you anti Higgins not understand?

                          If Higgins doesn`t sue I think he will carry the stigma for a very long time.

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                          • #28
                            http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/oth...g-verdict.html

                            States quite clearly here that he was charged with bringing the game into disrepute .

                            Unless they are wrong

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                            • #29
                              Originally Posted by maryfield View Post
                              The WPBSA announcement includes the lines, “Having studied all of the evidence in its entirety, the WPBSA and Sports Resolutions accept that there has been no dishonesty on the part of John Higgins and accordingly the WPBSA has withdrawn the allegations of match fixing against him.”

                              What part of this do you anti Higgins not understand?

                              If Higgins doesn`t sue I think he will carry the stigma for a very long time.
                              I don't think it's a question of understanding or not.

                              We live in a society where we believe in what we see, and in this case everyone saw the NOTW video, but no one saw what got Higgins off the hook.
                              2008-09 Prediction Champion

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                              • #30
                                Originally Posted by Migtsf View Post
                                I don't think it's a question of understanding or not.

                                We live in a society where we believe in what we see, and in this case everyone saw the NOTW video, but no one saw what got Higgins off the hook.
                                Society can't have it both ways though. The tribunal got it right IMO, unless society thinks the tribunal is bent!.

                                John should be allowed to get back to work in the first event after his suspension is finished, that is natural justice, and that concept must be applied in any process like this, no matter what anyone thinks. Otherwise we all, as society, lose credibility. The registrations are only an administrative process subject to pragmatic management

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