Ssb - hendry slams new ranking system

[wildJONESEYE]

I doubt Hendry would be saying a word if it hadn't been so slow start for the season for him. His criticism seems even more unjustified as he skipped so many PTC tournaments. I'm and have been a big Hendry fan and I think he's the best-ever player but this is absurd. This is sour grapes because of his decline.

Im a big fan of hendry myself he is the greatest player and the frustration of not being able to beat inferior players at will anymore like turning on a tap has hit him hard knowing losing to hanever sunday might be the final nail in his career at top level.

my advice is

stop moaning and get on that practice table and get winning matches.

[lk8]

there's good and bad regarding the new ranking system...

the bad is, you can't pace yourself for the whole season, to peak and perform best at the end of the season when the World Championships is on...

the good is, you can't plan and pace yourself, you just got to attend and play good in all the tournaments, but that may burn you out, and end up playing **** by the end of the season when the World Championship is on... hmmm....

so the good is for the fans, but the bad is for the players...

[wildJONESEYE]

there's good and bad regarding the new ranking system...

the bad is, you can't pace yourself for the whole season, to peak and perform best at the end of the season when the World Championships is on...

the good is, you can't plan and pace yourself, you just got to attend and play good in all the tournaments, but that may burn you out, and end up playing **** by the end of the season when the World Championship is on... hmmm....

GOOD

Pacing yourselves Sucks now players got to perform consistently and then we will see who the best players are.

Hendry in his prime never had to pace himself he went from country to country winning match after match tournaments after tournaments.

[Odrl]

Hendry should of been out of the top 16 a while back, its only due to the fact he seems to put a good run together in one or two tournaments a year at most that is keeping him in. And that was enough under the old ranking system, now this system has been implemented he isnt protected anymore, getting to the quarters and semis of the WC now just isnt gooed enough to save him when hes hardly won a match all season.

Well, the way I see it, that's not the case at all.

What the new system basically does, is turn provisional rankings into official ones more than once a season. Hendry has never been provisionally outside of the top16, so he would have stayed there whatever the system was. And he will stay there if he continues to play like he's been playing, even if his performances seem a bit underwhelming, to put it mildly.

And the new system still takes into account the two most recent World Championships, so a SF appearance will still get a player enough points so that he can afford a period of mediocre results, and still remain high in the rankings. Personally, I'm not complaining about that. It's the biggest tournament, so it should have the biggest impact on the rankings.

[wildJONESEYE]

Well, the way I see it, that's not the case at all.

What the new system basically does, is turn provisional rankings into official ones more than once a season. Hendry has never been provisionally outside of the top16, so he would have stayed there whatever the system was. And he will stay there if he continues to play like he's been playing, even if his performances seem a bit underwhelming, to put it mildly.

And the new system still takes into account the two most recent World Championships, so a SF appearance will still get a player enough points so that he can afford a period of mediocre results, and still remain high in the rankings. Personally, I'm not complaining about that. It's the biggest tournament, so it should have the biggest impact on the rankings.

he is 3,355 points off losing his top 16 place http://prosnookerblog.com/rankings/2...onal-rankings/

so a win over Havever will be enough for this window however theres 2 More cut offs before The Worlds unless he pulls his socks up he will have to qualify for sheffield.

[GER147]

I am a Hendry fan, but he is wrong... He wouldn't have said this in the 90's.

[Odrl]

he is 3,355 points off losing his top 16 place http://prosnookerblog.com/rankings/2...onal-rankings/

so a win over Havever will be enough for this window however theres 2 More cut offs before The Worlds unless he pulls his socks up he will have to qualify for sheffield.

Well yes...

What I was disagreeing with was the idea that Hendry should have been out of the top16 in the past seasons. Or that he would have been, if the system was different. He didn't have any brilliant results, but at no point in time were there 16 players better than him.

If I calculated it correctly, he would now be provisionally 15th under the old system. So it's not the system change that has suddenly put him in danger, it's the fact that his results have worsened.

[Rane]

Well if Hendry ever needed that (added incentive) to stay in the top 16, to find the consistency and his all-round game which has deserted him on many occasions over the last few years.

This could be just the kick up the backside that he needs..

It could be nice, if it was the kick, but by not showing up to several tournaments, he hasn´t exactly done a lot yet. And the same goes for Wenbo, who didn´t show up for several tournaments. I think it´s fine that we have got a ranking system that awards the players who plays and wins their matches.

[wildJONESEYE]

Well yes...

What I was disagreeing with was the idea that Hendry should have been out of the top16 in the past seasons. Or that he would have been, if the system was different. He didn't have any brilliant results, but at no point in time were there 16 players better than him.

If I calculated it correctly, he would now be provisionally 15th under the old system. So it's not the system change that has suddenly put him in danger, it's the fact that his results have worsened.

totally Agree Mark Williams under the old System has been Provisional 40 under no circumstance over the last 24 years Hendry has been Lower than Provisional 12th.

if this system was in place back then Mark might have been 2 far gone down the Rankings Having 2 Qualifiers to play to get Back up to where he is today.

[Matt_2745]

With his Bahrain SF soon to come off he won't get away with more defeats at revision two I'm afraid. Big Hendry fan but he's in a dogfight, no doubt about it.

[snooky147]

Although I agree that the ranking system needed an overhaul I will admit to at first being skeptical about this new system. I fully understand that players worked extremely hard over the course of many seasons to get to where they got in the rankings so now to have to see that sort of semi permanence in their placing taken away will be difficult for some of them.
On studying this system however I do think it will work, Provided that it stays as a two year rolling system and not a one year.
PS...Hendry was right about one thing in that article though. This forthcoming World Open should never have been a ranking tournament, not with a best of five format.

[cue1]

This forthcoming World Open should never have been a ranking tournament, not with a best of five format.

Why not?!! Isn't the purpose of different formats to find out who the overall best player is? Short format, long format, shot clock... etc. It's very difficult to be the master of all but chances are the best player will end up with the best overall result:snooker:

[debs]

Why not?!! Isn't the purpose of different formats to find out who the overall best player is? Short format, long format, shot clock... etc. It's very difficult to be the master of all but chances are the best player will end up with the best overall result:snooker:

Well players prefer different venus and perform better or worse because of that.
So it stands to reason that whoever suits long short formats will have a better chance at winning.

[cue1]

Well players prefer different venus and perform better or worse because of that.
So it stands to reason that whoever suits long short formats will have a better chance at winning.

I agree and that's the whole point of the diversity in venues & formats

[thinsy]

Well players prefer different venus and perform better or worse because of that.
So it stands to reason that whoever suits long short formats will have a better chance at winning.

I agree and that's the whole point of the diversity in venues & formats

Agreed!! If we didn't have change there would only be one world championship match a year based on a challenge format surely!!