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    Barry Hearn has warned snooker’s top stars to smarten up their acts as he plans the next phase of a revolution he hopes will globalise the sport.

    Hearn admits he is far from impressed from the recent behaviour of some of snooker’s leading lights and says he will not stand for anyone neglecting their professional responsibilities.

    The World Snooker Ltd chairman today stated that the governing body was close to signing new broadcast deals with the BBC and Eurosport and were looking at staging an extra half dozen events outside the UK.

    But I suggested to him that he needs player support to transform the game’s fortunes and that some of them need a wake-up call.

    “It’s true and I’ll deal with the players in a balanced way with education on one side and penalties on the other,” Hearn said.

    “Punishments will be draconian because I don’t want to take prisoners. If I’m going to give as much time and commitment as I have been to the ongoing increase in tournaments and prize money, I have to expect a similar return from my top players, and some of them are not delivering.

    “So we’ll be looking at our player contracts in more detail. There will be bigger penalties for entering tournaments and not turning up. There will be penalties for arriving late.

    “I’ve never had all of this in darts. I’ve got 380 players in the PDC and have never had a problem. The real secret is that they’ve been educated properly. I’m afraid some of the snooker players have a bit of an, ‘oh well, it doesn’t really matter’ attitude.

    “They’ve been allowed to get away with things for the last few years that I would never allow. I’ve been quite shocked that a couple of them are following that route but they have to be dealt with and I don’t care if their name is Sid Smith or Ronnie O’Sullivan. You know with me that they will be dealt with. There won’t be any tolerance whatsoever.

    “For Ronnie entering tournaments and then not turning up, it’s referred to the disciplinary process and there will be harsh financial penalties written into the contracts next year. Neil Robertson turned up with ten minutes to spare at the Premier League last week. It’s a harsh note from me. It’s lack of professionalism on his part and he’s very embarrassed about it. He’ll be told in future he’ll be expected to turn up six hours before the match, not one, if he wants to play in my events in the future. Ding smashed the pack in an EPTC. That’s gone to a disciplinary.

    “Dave Douglas has a range of issues to sort out, including players who didn’t turn up to the opening press conference in Shanghai, because they didn’t think it really mattered – well let’s see what Mr. Douglas has to say about that. There’s a price to pay. John Higgins has paid a price for being unprofessional in some aspects. Other players will have to as well. Going forward, you either play under my rules or you don’t play at all. It doesn’t matter who you are.

    “Over the next few weeks you’ll read certain things and say, ‘blimey, he was actually telling us the truth.’ We are a professional sport and 99% of players act like professionals all the time. But snooker has been stuck in the mire, going nowhere, and there’s a certain attitude among certain players that it doesn’t really matter. They’re being educated now. Some of them are quite surprised I’m delivering the things I said I would and they need a wake-up call to be more professional.

    “In other sports I’m involved in I don’t have any of this. In snooker, the contracts haven’t been tight enough and people abuse it, but they don’t abuse it with me twice. I bumped into one them who said, ‘you won’t discipline me.’ Trust me, I’d do it to my mum, and she’s dead.

    “I need the top players to illustrate to the younger players the rules that exist, on etiquette. They all come from the top players. If your kid at home watches a footballer take a dive, when he’s out playing for the under 11’s, he’ll take a dive because he’s seen it on TV. That’s not good. We have to set the standards. In the 1980s, it was all built on the bowtie image and that’s one that carries a huge financial premium.

    “When I was in Shanghai I couldn’t believe the red carpet treatment I got. I mean, I know I’m important but I was astonished how well I got treated. Then I’m in my hotel room in Bangkok and the phone goes. It’s the prime minister’s office asking if I’d go and see him. It shows you how big this sport is. It all comes about through the image you create And this is where the top players have a responsibility to the game.”


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  • #2
    Smashing the pack goes to a disciplinary? That'll certainly stamp out any individuality player s might want to display...

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    • #3
      I like Barry and his revolution but this is extreme. On the one hand he wants characters like Alex Higgins and Dennis Taylor, on the other he is saying he will run a military regime where you can't split the pack!

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      • #4
        Clearly Hearn means smashing the pack from the break-off as that's what Ding did at the EPTC event in Ruesselsheim when he virtually handed Wenbo the frame by doing so.

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        • #5
          Originally Posted by gerbisto View Post
          I like Barry and his revolution but this is extreme. On the one hand he wants characters like Alex Higgins and Dennis Taylor, on the other he is saying he will run a military regime where you can't split the pack!
          He's not talking about "splitting the pack". He's referring to a player smacking the pack from behind on the break off and leaving the lot on for his opponent. Remember the furore when Quinten Hann did it years ago.

          It's hard to think of an equivalent in other sports but I suppose it would be like a cricketer bowling underarm with a tennis ball or a tennis player serving under arm.

          Sadly some of the behaviour in the EPTCs by some players was very poor both on and off the table. It was a huge let down to fans who'd paid a lot of money to go and watch their heroes and they saw players lashing the balls about as if they didn't care, conceding frames and matches and so on.
          Janie Watkins
          On Q Promotions / South West Snooker Academy
          All views are my own and in no way represent On Q or the Academy

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          • #6
            Originally Posted by eWil View Post
            Clearly Hearn means smashing the pack from the break-off as that's what Ding did at the EPTC event in Ruesselsheim when he virtually handed Wenbo the frame by doing so.
            Yes.. but.. why should that go to disciplinary?

            I mean, it's not something a player is going to seriously consider as a winning tactic, so it's not something players are going to start doing.. meaning it's not something you have to enforce against with rules/penalties from that perspective.

            And, as for it being bad for the sport.. how? I mean, it shows players are human, get frustrated, and make mistakes.. these are all things we look for in the sport anyway, they make it interesting.
            "Do unto others 20% better than you would expect them to do unto you, to correct for subjective error"
            - Linus Pauling

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            • #7
              Originally Posted by nrage View Post
              Yes.. but.. why should that go to disciplinary?

              I mean, it's not something a player is going to seriously consider as a winning tactic, so it's not something players are going to start doing.. meaning it's not something you have to enforce against with rules/penalties from that perspective.

              And, as for it being bad for the sport.. how? I mean, it shows players are human, get frustrated, and make mistakes.. these are all things we look for in the sport anyway, they make it interesting.
              its unproffesional.

              People mention Alex Higgins but one thing Alex NEVER Did play to lose he was as tough as they came yes he played flash shots but like janie said Some players in the PTC Ding included tried to lose now that cant continue and i applaud This Action by Barry Hearn players needs to shape up or find another job.

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              • #8
                Originally Posted by nrage View Post
                Yes.. but.. why should that go to disciplinary?

                I mean, it's not something a player is going to seriously consider as a winning tactic, so it's not something players are going to start doing.. meaning it's not something you have to enforce against with rules/penalties from that perspective.

                And, as for it being bad for the sport.. how? I mean, it shows players are human, get frustrated, and make mistakes.. these are all things we look for in the sport anyway, they make it interesting.
                Simply, it is unprofessional, Peter Francisco was found guilty of a performance unbefitting of a professional sportsman and banned from the game, smashing the balls from the break is unprofessional and if it is not a winning tactic then it is a tactic which means you are not trying to win, therefore deliberately losing.

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                • #9
                  Originally Posted by wildJONESEYE View Post
                  its unproffesional.

                  People mention Alex Higgins but one thing Alex NEVER Did play to lose he was as tough as they came yes he played flash shots but like janie said Some players in the PTC Ding included tried to lose now that cant continue and i applaud This Action by Barry Hearn players needs to shape up or find another job.
                  I strongly agree. This right thing to do. I've been worried about the attitude some players have towards the PTC/EPTC tournaments. Hendry, Allen, Ronnie and Ding to name a few don't seem to give these tournaments/playing opportunities the respect they deserve. They've chosen to moan or show disrespect or not show up. After all these are the players every young player look up to. And I'm happy that Barry is taking action.

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                  • #10
                    I don't think smashing the reds on the break should result in a disciplinary hearing. There's nothing in the rules that says you can't do it and at least some percentage of the time you will pot a ball. JayBee, you might say this is not a winning tactic. How different is this from taking on a "low-percentage" red?

                    Over the years people have said Drago plays too quickly and makes careless mistakes as a consequence. He should never be told to play more slowly or be more careful! I don't think breaking hard means you don't want to win, it just makes for a different game. How many times have you seen a player break off defensively and not get another shot? Davis was rolling into the reds off two cushions for a while for this reason. The current break off is not a real advantage or disadvantage, so it's not necessarily forfeiting control.

                    If a player wants to break them hard, roll into them or play the standard opening shot, I think you should let them. I think you have to!

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                    • #11
                      Originally Posted by Nugget View Post
                      I don't think smashing the reds on the break should result in a disciplinary hearing. There's nothing in the rules that says you can't do it and at least some percentage of the time you will pot a ball. JayBee, you might say this is not a winning tactic. How different is this from taking on a "low-percentage" red?

                      Over the years people have said Drago plays too quickly and makes careless mistakes as a consequence. He should never be told to play more slowly or be more careful! I don't think breaking hard means you don't want to win, it just makes for a different game. How many times have you seen a player break off defensively and not get another shot? Davis was rolling into the reds off two cushions for a while for this reason. The current break off is not a real advantage or disadvantage, so it's not necessarily forfeiting control.

                      If a player wants to break them hard, roll into them or play the standard opening shot, I think you should let them. I think you have to!
                      I agree .. all I would add is that if a player does something, like breaking the balls open but at the same time swears out loud, at themselves, the opposition, the referee, etc.. or acts threatening.. or <insert other un-sportsmanlike conduct> then it should be disciplinary action time.. but it's the other stuff, not the breaking the balls which warrants it.
                      "Do unto others 20% better than you would expect them to do unto you, to correct for subjective error"
                      - Linus Pauling

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                      • #12
                        Originally Posted by JanieWatkins View Post
                        He's not talking about "splitting the pack". He's referring to a player smacking the pack from behind on the break off and leaving the lot on for his opponent. Remember the furore when Quinten Hann did it years ago.

                        It's hard to think of an equivalent in other sports but I suppose it would be like a cricketer bowling underarm with a tennis ball or a tennis player serving under arm.

                        Sadly some of the behaviour in the EPTCs by some players was very poor both on and off the table. It was a huge let down to fans who'd paid a lot of money to go and watch their heroes and they saw players lashing the balls about as if they didn't care, conceding frames and matches and so on.
                        Although i see the point of other comments on the pack - I agree that smashing into the pack as Ding and Hann in the past did is both unprofessional and is handing the frame to your opponent - Of course you may pot one, but there is no guarantee where the white will finish and if a colour will be on - However, if you don't pot one, (which is more than likely) with 15 reds on the table, it is guaranteed there'll be an easy pot on for the opponent.

                        Janie - interesting you say about players at the venue - I know a variety of players didn't enter a lot and we've probably all seen Ding's attitude - but was this sort of behaviour common off other players and are there any examples you can give - so we can weigh up how we would feel if we saw it at the UK in a couple of weeks.

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                        • #13
                          I think that's a load of rubbish personally.

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                          • #14
                            Originally Posted by Nugget View Post
                            I don't think smashing the reds on the break should result in a disciplinary hearing. There's nothing in the rules that says you can't do it and at least some percentage of the time you will pot a ball. JayBee, you might say this is not a winning tactic. How different is this from taking on a "low-percentage" red?

                            Over the years people have said Drago plays too quickly and makes careless mistakes as a consequence. He should never be told to play more slowly or be more careful! I don't think breaking hard means you don't want to win, it just makes for a different game. How many times have you seen a player break off defensively and not get another shot? Davis was rolling into the reds off two cushions for a while for this reason. The current break off is not a real advantage or disadvantage, so it's not necessarily forfeiting control.

                            If a player wants to break them hard, roll into them or play the standard opening shot, I think you should let them. I think you have to!
                            When You take a low Percentage Red you take it knowing frame winning chance if you pot it.

                            Smashing the Reds with Stun so the balls are slap bang in the middle of the Table ready for your opponent does not come under grasping a chance it comes under corruption or couldn't give a **** and showing disrespect for fans.

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                            • #15
                              id be looking at each incident and judging it as follows if a said player doesent give his all in a PTC he is missing out on the UK Championship

                              its time we stop faffing about and telling them whats what.

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