Ssb - hearn: Players need to shape up

[jrc750]

.......All Barry Hearn has to do in order to ensure sufficient participation is state that 6/7 events must have been entered and played in for each player to be allowed entrance in to the World Championship Competition. Who won't turn up then? You still have autonomy to choose which events you play in, but as a professional you must appear in 6/7 of them in order to be allowed to compete for the World Title.

This is a very good idea

[Case454]

The thing is though it was clear that Ding was not playing an attacking shot from the break. He just opened the reds, he didn’t hit them hard enough to try and pot, he purposely left his opponent in. Hann was different as he was trying to get one in off the break.

[wildJONESEYE]

OK, forget about splitting the pack, I think that he is too agressive when he speaks, like when he mentioned the 10 minute lateness of Robertson.

He wants to show he is really tough but when he had the opportunity to prove his toughness, with John Higgins, he failed miserably.

Having said all this, I still am all for Hearn's revolution and feel that he is the best man to lead the sport.

Regarding Higgins he had to give it over the enquiery who acted on evidence provided.

you cant be tough for the hell of it without evidence.

however if a player doesent turn up to his job it says W/O on the draw sheet = Strong Evidence.

[iancafc]

From what i can gather from this is basically what ding did was smash the pack up rather than just playing safe so being unprofessonal

[wildJONESEYE]

From what i can gather from this is basically what ding did was smash the pack up rather than just playing safe so being unprofessonal

and im pretty sure other players was as guilty but ding had it caught on camera.

[Theguywithaplan]

Here is the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIgYk..._order&list=UL
I agree with what Hearn says about this, I don't mind people smashing the pack of the break like Quinten but he had no intention of potting a ball there. He just wanted to give the frame to Liang. Also, look at 3:25. Red over the pocket and he makes 1 from it in a very suspicious way.

[iancafc]

yh i suspect so but now theres intention to stamp this out.Maybe refs mite start putting in their match reports that there is unprofessional behavior going on i.e ding smashes pack intentionally to lose a frame

[wildJONESEYE]

I think it's ridiculous to dictate how players should play certain shots. There is no rule preventing an aggressive break-off shot, and if a player thinks it would give him an advantage, he should have every right to play it.

But it's another thing if there is suspicion that a player is deliberately trying to lose. In that case, it shouldn't matter if it's a controversial break-off shot, or a simple black off the spot like in the O'Sullivan-Tian match. By all mean have a hearing or an investigation in that case.

But a rule that dictates players' shot selection would be preposterous.

There Wont be any Rule or Blanket Rule but each case will be looked at that is why you have Board Members Like David Douglass that will be looking at Every Players Conduct From All Angles.

[wildJONESEYE]

All Barry Hearn has to do in order to ensure sufficient participation is state that 6/7 events must have been entered and played in for each player to be allowed entrance in to the World Championship Competition. Who won't turn up then? You still have autonomy to choose which events you play in, but as a professional you must appear in 6/7 of them in order to be allowed to compete for the World Title.

i am 110% in favour of that....

Players must show commitment to the game and if Barry has to Blackmail them then so be it

[Nugget]

Here is the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIgYk..._order&list=UL
I agree with what Hearn says about this, I don't mind people smashing the pack of the break like Quinten but he had no intention of potting a ball there. He just wanted to give the frame to Liang. Also, look at 3:25. Red over the pocket and he makes 1 from it in a very suspicious way.

Thanks for the link! I didn't realised he played it that way, just opening the reds casually. Not the same as the efforts I saw from Hann, where I did see him make a ball at least once...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6a2H...e_gdata_player

Don't know if there are any videos of Quinten doing it online, but I'm guessing that's the only time Robertson has tried it in his career, and he potted one! Isn't that a 100% success rate...?

Really if it's anywhere around 50% you can't punish a player for going for it. It becomes a talking-point if a player does it, the crowd went mad when Quinten did, and a player could conceivably win the game from the break. Then there's the psychology of it and how the opponent would be affected coming to the table after a break like that. The balls could all be on, or they could go awkward. This has to be allowed. Ding's attempt was something different, though.

[Rane]

Here is the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIgYk..._order&list=UL
I agree with what Hearn says about this, I don't mind people smashing the pack of the break like Quinten but he had no intention of potting a ball there. He just wanted to give the frame to Liang. Also, look at 3:25. Red over the pocket and he makes 1 from it in a very suspicious way.

You wouldn´t even see such a shot from an amateur.

[jrc750]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6a2H...e_gdata_player

Don't know if there are any videos of Quinten doing it online, but I'm guessing that's the only time Robertson has tried it in his career, and he potted one! Isn't that a 100% success rate...?......

Thanks for that link, i hav'nt seen that before
But whats with the commentator
- had to stop it as i couldn't take anymore of his constant talking, he didn't pause once

[King T]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6a2H...e_gdata_player

Don't know if there are any videos of Quinten doing it online, but I'm guessing that's the only time Robertson has tried it in his career, and he potted one! Isn't that a 100% success rate...?

First time I ever come across that clip!! Damn he was so desperate wasn't he!! How come no one ever trashed Neil for doing that??? Only Quinten Hann seems to take the blame for doing the same move!

And what was that!!! He actually threw a towel over Doherty's face!

[Theguywithaplan]

First time I ever come across that clip!! Damn he was so desperate wasn't he!! How come no one ever trashed Neil for doing that??? Only Quinten Hann seems to take the blame for doing the same move

To be fair this was a round robin format and he'd already lost the match. He had nothing to play for so both the players just tried to entertain the crowd.

[wildJONESEYE]

To be fair this was a round robin format and he'd already lost the match. He had nothing to play for so both the players just tried to entertain the crowd.

when you have bookies taking frame score bets etc you cant be seen doing that it opens cans of worms we do not want to open.