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    Snooker was invented in India in 1875. It was the rainy season and British army officers were indoors mucking about with the rules of existing cue sports.


    The invention of snooker is credited to Colonel Neville Chamberlain, who was in fact only 19 and not a colonel in 1875. With just a few minor tweaks here and there the rules he instituted are still the rules by which the game is played today. They have more than stood the test of time.


    This is not leading up to me making the old gag about snooker starting in an officer’s mess and ending up in a total mess but a way of drawing attention to the exploits this week of the professional circuit’s two Indian players, Pankaj Advani and Aditya Mehta.


    Advani is a former world professional billiards champion, his main sport. Just 27, he is much admired at home where billiards remains a popular sport.


    Advani has received many national honours, including the Khel Ratna, which I suppose is a bit like the BBC Sports Personality of the Year but an award which recognises that cue sports exist and are popular (although Steve Davis did win SPOTY in 1988).


    Mehta is a double Asian Games medallist and has already this season appeared in the final qualifying round of two ranking events.


    He has just won the Arjuna Award, another national accolade for sporting achievement.


    On Sunday, both Advani and Mehta made back-to-back centuries in winning their matches in the first qualifying round of the International Championship.


    Advani then made two more today in beating Alan McManus in the third qualifying round, where Mehta is playing Jimmy White at the time of writing.


    Advani must beat Michael Holt tomorrow to qualify, which would be a significant achievement.


    India has a proud cue sports history but has never really had a top player at snooker.


    There was O. B. Agrawal, who beat Stephen Hendry in his first ever match in the UK Championship, Yasin Merchant and Geet Sethi, a former world billiards champion, a great bloke and also a journalist for the Hindu.


    It was Geet who pretty much killed off the press tournament due to the fact that he kept winning it.


    He was usually accompanied to tournaments by Michael Ferreira, another billiards player who wrote for The Times of India.


    Michael was always great company but would usually spend a good ten minutes shouting at the fax machine when the time came to send his copy home, the vagaries of technology often defeating him.


    Now, India has Advani and Mehta: two young men starting to make strides on the other side of the world.


    I don’t know either personally but on Twitter they come across as polite, professional and dedicated and the results are starting to come.


    There was talk last year of a ranking event in India (there have been invitation tournaments in the past).


    This will surely be made more likely if Advani and Mehta can continue their encouraging progress.



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  • #2
    I' played them both and personally I think Advani is sharper and more talented and has more experience on the big stage.
    I fancy Pankaj qualifying for 3-4 tournaments this season and doing well in main draw.
    All the best to both of them.
    Would love to see any of them playing on the main draw.
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    • #3
      Originally Posted by sunny3909 View Post
      I' played them both and personally I think Advani is sharper and more talented and has more experience on the big stage.
      I fancy Pankaj qualifying for 3-4 tournaments this season and doing well in main draw.
      All the best to both of them.
      Would love to see any of them playing on the main draw.
      This can only be good news for the internationalisation of World Snooker, and the growth of the game. If they have a ranking event, fabulous. No doubt some players would complain about flying, hotels and food though!
      Harder than you think is a beautiful thing.

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      • #4
        Originally Posted by Particle Physics View Post
        This can only be good news for the internationalisation of World Snooker, and the growth of the game. If they have a ranking event, fabulous. No doubt some players would complain about flying, hotels and food though!
        What would be good for the globalization of the game is for the egyptian and iranian to be given their work permits so they can play they are missing out through no fault of their own as is the canadian
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        • #5
          I for one (being an Indian myself), would absolutely love to see some of my fellow curries make it to the big stage.
          Mayur Jobanputra, Snooker Coach and Snooker Enthusiast
          My Snooker Blog: www.snookerdelight.com

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          • #6
            Originally Posted by ferret View Post
            Snooker was invented in India in 1875. It was the rainy season and British army officers were indoors mucking about with the rules of existing cue sports.


            The invention of snooker is credited to Colonel Neville Chamberlain, who was in fact only 19 and not a colonel in 1875. With just a few minor tweaks here and there the rules he instituted are still the rules by which the game is played today. They have more than stood the test of time.


            This is not leading up to me making the old gag about snooker starting in an officer’s mess and ending up in a total mess but a way of drawing attention to the exploits this week of the professional circuit’s two Indian players, Pankaj Advani and Aditya Mehta.


            Advani is a former world professional billiards champion, his main sport. Just 27, he is much admired at home where billiards remains a popular sport.


            Advani has received many national honours, including the Khel Ratna, which I suppose is a bit like the BBC Sports Personality of the Year but an award which recognises that cue sports exist and are popular (although Steve Davis did win SPOTY in 1988).


            Mehta is a double Asian Games medallist and has already this season appeared in the final qualifying round of two ranking events.


            He has just won the Arjuna Award, another national accolade for sporting achievement.


            On Sunday, both Advani and Mehta made back-to-back centuries in winning their matches in the first qualifying round of the International Championship.


            Advani then made two more today in beating Alan McManus in the third qualifying round, where Mehta is playing Jimmy White at the time of writing.


            Advani must beat Michael Holt tomorrow to qualify, which would be a significant achievement.


            India has a proud cue sports history but has never really had a top player at snooker.


            There was O. B. Agrawal, who beat Stephen Hendry in his first ever match in the UK Championship, Yasin Merchant and Geet Sethi, a former world billiards champion, a great bloke and also a journalist for the Hindu.


            It was Geet who pretty much killed off the press tournament due to the fact that he kept winning it.


            He was usually accompanied to tournaments by Michael Ferreira, another billiards player who wrote for The Times of India.


            Michael was always great company but would usually spend a good ten minutes shouting at the fax machine when the time came to send his copy home, the vagaries of technology often defeating him.


            Now, India has Advani and Mehta: two young men starting to make strides on the other side of the world.


            I don’t know either personally but on Twitter they come across as polite, professional and dedicated and the results are starting to come.


            There was talk last year of a ranking event in India (there have been invitation tournaments in the past).


            This will surely be made more likely if Advani and Mehta can continue their encouraging progress.



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            please forgive the pun but aditya has the indian sign on jimmy atm
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            • #7
              longbomber:

              You have an advantage as you can root for both the Indians and Floyd although God knows when Floyd will get his visa so he can at least play.

              Terry
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              • #8
                Originally Posted by Terry Davidson View Post
                longbomber:

                You have an advantage as you can root for both the Indians and Floyd although God knows when Floyd will get his visa so he can at least play.

                Terry
                do you blame us for not letting canucks in ..... just kidding how easy is getting a visa if ur a commonwealth subject?
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                • #9
                  Originally Posted by Terry Davidson View Post
                  longbomber:

                  You have an advantage as you can root for both the Indians and Floyd although God knows when Floyd will get his visa so he can at least play.

                  Terry
                  you could support Passakorn suwannawat he kinda looks like a oriental bill werberniek
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                  • #10
                    Well, if I had the century making capabilities, I would go out there and play myself. I was born in Manchester and have dual British and Canadian rights. I would probably want to represent Canucks.
                    Mayur Jobanputra, Snooker Coach and Snooker Enthusiast
                    My Snooker Blog: www.snookerdelight.com

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                    • #11
                      Alexa:

                      I believe for a pro athlete visa there is no advantage being a commonwealth citizen. There used to be for resident visas as I was able to get one quickly because I had a grandmother born in England.

                      I haven't talked to Floyd regarding the visa problem but I think it was the lateness of his turning pro (sometime in July I believe) that the WPBSA (or WSA, not sure which body sponsors overseas players) wasn't able to do the sponsorship letter and visa application in time. On the other hand, in the visa rules there is a bit about being able to show the applicant has sufficient funds to support himself for 12 months before the application is approved. It will be good to have a Canadian on the tour though.

                      Also, on the Passakorn thing, does he also down 12 pints of beer while playing an 8-frame set? If not then he's no 'Big Bill'!

                      Terry
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                      • #12
                        Originally Posted by LittleMissAlexa View Post
                        What would be good for the globalization of the game is for the egyptian and iranian to be given their work permits so they can play they are missing out through no fault of their own as is the canadian
                        personally i dont think the Canadian has the same visa problems or he shouldn't have Canada is a commonwealth country

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                        • #13
                          wildJONESEYE:

                          I don't believe there is any advantage for a Commonwealth player when it comes to the pro athlete visas however there is an advantage when it comes to resident permits. Floyd could have gone that route if he had a parent or grandparent who was born in Britain, but with a surname of Zeigler (good German stock?) that's probably unlikely.

                          They have some kind of points system which evaluates various things, like money in the bank.

                          Terry
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                          • #14
                            Originally Posted by Terry Davidson View Post
                            Alexa:

                            I believe for a pro athlete visa there is no advantage being a commonwealth citizen. There used to be for resident visas as I was able to get one quickly because I had a grandmother born in England.

                            I haven't talked to Floyd regarding the visa problem but I think it was the lateness of his turning pro (sometime in July I believe) that the WPBSA (or WSA, not sure which body sponsors overseas players) wasn't able to do the sponsorship letter and visa application in time. On the other hand, in the visa rules there is a bit about being able to show the applicant has sufficient funds to support himself for 12 months before the application is approved. It will be good to have a Canadian on the tour though.

                            Also, on the Passakorn thing, does he also down 12 pints of beer while playing an 8-frame set? If not then he's no 'Big Bill'!

                            Terry
                            i meant in figure Passakorn is rotund
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                            • #15
                              alexa:

                              I had gathered that from another post and my comment was also a joke since of course no beer allowed anymore, along with ciggys which Bill used to suck back too

                              Terry
                              Terry Davidson
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