Ssb - judd trump: World no.1

[cazmac1]

If you have any doubts watch this, also pay attention to the intro.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=as2VC...eature=related

[cally]

Judd no 1 eh... another player gets to the number 1 spot that aint done alot for a while, he int won a tourney for ages and gets to number 1.. pfft, goes to show the ranking points or summat int quite right with the current ranking system IMO...

[Odrl]

Judd no 1 eh... another player gets to the number 1 spot that aint done alot for a while, he int won a tourney for ages and gets to number 1.. pfft, goes to show the ranking points or summat int quite right with the current ranking system IMO...

He is the current UK champion. :wink:

Also counting towards his current ranking are his China Open title of 2011, his World final and his Shanghai Masters final. And of course also the points from this week which will most likely end with another title. Sure we've seen better in the past, but given the way titles have been shared over the last two years, no one really has a better record. :smile:

[cazmac1]

You mean the new mini watered down UK championships?

[Odrl]

You mean the new mini watered down UK championships?

Yes, that's the one. :smile:

[cueman]

Still a UK title nonetheless, quality, not quantity!

And what a final it was last year, one visit stuff mostly. Allen and Trump really is a good match up whenever those two meet.

[cazmac1]

Still a UK title nonetheless, quality, not quantity!

And what a final it was last year, one visit stuff mostly. Allen and Trump really is a good match up whenever those two meet.

I have to admit it was a very good final and a comp that every one wanted to win not like a lot of the PTC's were top players pull out as well as the chinese comps.

[arbitrage]

Haha - Seven world titles with players like Davis, White and O'Sullivan to deal with, but also almost 800 centuries, 11 maximums and outstanding tactical and safety games in a rock solid match temperament - he'd have made mincemeat out of today's lot.

But everyone has their day and he's had his, just that his lasted a decade.

then explain why he had so little success after 2000 when the competition became far more intense - in fact, from 2005 - 2012, he was the 'mincemeat' since he didn't win any ranking titles after the 2005 malta cup. if you look at the playing stats alone, o'sullivan is by far the most prolific break-builder in the game with an average of around 35 centuries per season compared to hendry's 28 (and john higgins' 29) - if this were expressed in frames played, o'sullivan would have an even bigger advantage. in terms of the potting success for the entire tournament or matches, hendry is around the 90% mark whereas o'sullivan has achieved ~95% or above in many instances. so if you look at the playing stats alone and not the title achievements, o'sullivan and higgins have taken the game to a new level and one where hendry has never been before - williams, murphy, maguire, robertson, ding, trump are all pretty much equal to hendry so from that line of analysis, hendry would not have dominated in this era - which explains the results from 2000 - 2012.

p.s. jimmy white while extremely talented was never very professional in his approach to the sport - and therefore was never consistent enough to challenge hendry.

[eaoin11]

then explain why he had so little success after 2000 when the competition became far more intense - in fact, from 2005 - 2012, he was the 'mincemeat' since he didn't win any ranking titles after the 2005 malta cup. if you look at the playing stats alone, o'sullivan is by far the most prolific break-builder in the game with an average of around 35 centuries per season compared to hendry's 28 (and john higgins' 29) - if this were expressed in frames played, o'sullivan would have an even bigger advantage. in terms of the potting success for the entire tournament or matches, hendry is around the 90% mark whereas o'sullivan has achieved ~95% or above in many instances. so if you look at the playing stats alone and not the title achievements, o'sullivan and higgins have taken the game to a new level and one where hendry has never been before - williams, murphy, maguire, robertson, ding, trump are all pretty much equal to hendry so from that line of analysis, hendry would not have dominated in this era - which explains the results from 2000 - 2012.

p.s. jimmy white while extremely talented was never very professional in his approach to the sport - and therefore was never consistent enough to challenge hendry.

Everyone knows that's when he broke his cue, and the effect this had on his game. Make it a harder one next time...

[narl]

Everyone knows that's when he broke his cue, and the effect this had on his game. Make it a harder one next time...

Hendry said himself that "cues don't matter" (despite going through around a dozen or more after his got broken) and that the cue he won his titles with was nothing special (or in his own words one of the worst you'd ever see). He also claimed he'd battling the "yips" for about 10 years, if thats the case it would affect his game significantly.

Either way you're not gonna play the same forever, you start to decline at some point.

[cally]

You can go on and on about hendries decline being down to this and that all you like but nothing lasts forever..

Peak young and end early is my theory on all sportsmen.. (which i think is a good theory)...lol.....

He just peaked to early in his career mun...

[narl]

You can go on and on about hendries decline being down to this and that all you like but nothing lasts forever..

Peak young and end early is my theory on all sportsmen..

He just peaked to early in his career mun...

Pretty much that, you're not gonna play the same way forever, you have peaks and dips but eventually the peaks aren't as high anymore.

[arbitrage]

Everyone knows that's when he broke his cue, and the effect this had on his game. Make it a harder one next time...

so, if you break your cue, you won't be able to play snooker any more?! well, i'd hate to hear you get into an accident while sitting down - you won't be able to perform for the rest of your life?

[Capelito]

then explain why he had so little success after 2000 when the competition became far more intence.

Quite impressive to win 4 titles and be ranked top3 for 4 years, including one as no1 in his time of "little success" Compared to the plsyer the thread is
about I think that Hendrys "little success" is still better than Trumps record so far...

[trains]

robertson,trump are all pretty much equal to hendry so from that line of analysis, hendry would not have dominated in this era - which explains the results from 2000 - 2012.

Hendry from any year in the 90's wouldn't hold the coat tails of today's Robertson or Trump,the only argument in his case is if he was born a decade later and matured his game amongst the stronger field,but then he'd be just another pro and not someone with 7 world titles.