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  • #76
    Originally Posted by cazmac1 View Post
    I saw nothing in that average final to suggest that either players measures up to hendry.
    Originally Posted by Gerry Armstrong View Post
    One century in 19 frames.
    TBH there was a lot at stake for both players and the balls didn't exactly make break building chances that easily. Conditions haven't been great this week either, a fair few kicks as you often get in China and the table wasn't running true either. Lots of camera clicks putting the players off etc. Its very easy to knock the standard but these players have a lot of pressure and things to contend with. A century still only wins one frame. Selby hit a record number last season and didn't exactly have a lot of titles to show for it which proves my point.

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    • #77
      So it's OK to knock Stephen Hendry's standard in his hey day but it's everyone/thing else's fault when today's standard from 2 players who apparently Stephen would be no match for is poor?

      Can't have it both ways...

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      • #78
        Originally Posted by trains View Post
        Hendry's UK performances in 03 and 06 were as good as anything he displayed in the 90's,he didn't win either.
        and welsh open 2005. the stats don't lie - once there emerged a group of players who could play at, around or above his level - hendry was just another top 5 player not a dominant force

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        • #79
          Hendry was an exciting world champion and his accomplishments
          were many. Its now Trump's turn and hopefully he will continue
          to help the game grow in popularity as Hendry did.

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          • #80
            Originally Posted by arbitrage View Post
            and welsh open 2005. the stats don't lie - once there emerged a group of players who could play at, around or above his level - hendry was just another top 5 player not a dominant force
            These endless debates are so tedious, with absolutely no academic merit at all... Get a time machine, throw these guys up against Hendry when he won his world titles, then get back to me.
            Tear up that manure-fed astroturf!

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            • #81
              Originally Posted by eaoin11 View Post
              These endless debates are so tedious, with absolutely no academic merit at all... Get a time machine, throw these guys up against Hendry when he won his world titles, then get back to me.
              get a time machine yourself, go back in time and stay there please

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              • #82
                Originally Posted by trains View Post
                Hendry from any year in the 90's wouldn't hold the coat tails of today's Robertson or Trump,the only argument in his case is if he was born a decade later and matured his game amongst the stronger field,but then he'd be just another pro and not someone with 7 world titles.
                Pmsl.....i respect everyone has an opinion but OMG what a crock of absolute ****
                It's hard to pot balls with a Chimpanzee tea party going on in your head

                Wibble

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                • #83
                  Originally Posted by arbitrage View Post
                  get a time machine yourself, go back in time and stay there please
                  Still waiting for a (reliable and complete) source for the stats you presented. Your habit to push your own agenda (and love for Ronnie) gives a reason to suspect that you'd fabricate the numbers.

                  I'm be ready to apologize, of course, if the source exists and I'll see it.
                  Last edited by Looki; 5 November 2012, 07:58 AM.

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                  • #84
                    Originally Posted by Ron Jeremy View Post
                    I actually think the guy is overrated.
                    He is attacking and exciting.
                    But he doesn't have that control with the white that Hendry and other greats have.
                    He is a potter, and excellent one, and have amazing power.
                    Maybe he is just a bit to cocky for my taste?
                    And the rest of the best is not in form, higgins, selby and others have slipped.
                    But he's a number one, he deserves it, i also think he can stay there and learn, he is still young.
                    And he draws people to snooker, which is extremly important.
                    Having said that, i don't see him as a legend material, judd is not an Hendry, far from it imo?
                    its a myth he has as good an average of centuries person season as anyone accept o'sullivan you dont average 20 odd centuries per season as a poor breakbuilder
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                    • #85
                      Originally Posted by arbitrage View Post
                      get a time machine yourself, go back in time and stay there please
                      I like the present time just fine thanks And I prefer using it to admire the achievements of players rather than cherry picking stats to claim that one of our greats was ordinary by today's standards.
                      Tear up that manure-fed astroturf!

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                      • #86
                        The numbers don't lie, during the game's best decade Hendry won the world title 7 times and he has made a total of 127 centuries at the crucible alone including 3 maximums.

                        Trump may be the best of today's bunch at the moment but there is no clear dominant force and he is nowhere near being a great, Trump's 3 ranking titles from about 60 attempts can't even compare with Hendry's World Championship record of 7 world titles from 27 attempts.

                        Unlikely anyone will match Hendry's career achievements, ever.

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                        • #87
                          Originally Posted by sberry View Post
                          The numbers don't lie, during the game's best decade Hendry won the world title 7 times and he has made a total of 127 centuries at the crucible alone including 3 maximums.

                          Trump may be the best of today's bunch at the moment but there is no clear dominant force and he is nowhere near being a great, Trump's 3 ranking titles from about 60 attempts can't even compare with Hendry's World Championship record of 7 world titles from 27 attempts.

                          Unlikely anyone will match Hendry's career achievements, ever.
                          if you just go by numbers then Joe Davis is the greatest ever you need to put in the skill of the players around at the time too Hendry's first two were before the golden generation turned pro the top 16 in those days was a pretty weak one the likes of Mike Hallett, Neil Foulds, gary Wilkinson, David Roe etc making it
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                          • #88
                            Originally Posted by LittleMissAlexa View Post
                            if you just go by numbers then Joe Davis is the greatest ever you need to put in the skill of the players around at the time too Hendry's first two were before the golden generation turned pro the top 16 in those days was a pretty weak one the likes of Mike Hallett, Neil Foulds, gary Wilkinson, David Roe etc making it
                            Hmm, Hallett, Foulds and Wilkinson won titles - David Roe you could compare to players in today's top 16, like Joe Perry.

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                            • #89
                              Originally Posted by eaoin11 View Post
                              I like the present time just fine thanks And I prefer using it to admire the achievements of players rather than cherry picking stats to claim that one of our greats was ordinary by today's standards.
                              use it to bury your head in the sand then and keep it there - that way you will be oblivious to the facts

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                              • #90
                                Originally Posted by sberry View Post
                                The numbers don't lie, during the game's best decade Hendry won the world title 7 times and he has made a total of 127 centuries at the crucible alone including 3 maximums.

                                Trump may be the best of today's bunch at the moment but there is no clear dominant force and he is nowhere near being a great, Trump's 3 ranking titles from about 60 attempts can't even compare with Hendry's World Championship record of 7 world titles from 27 attempts.

                                Unlikely anyone will match Hendry's career achievements, ever.
                                what numbers validate your claim that the 90s was the game's best decade?

                                so, if post 2000 standards were inferior to the 90s then why was hendry unable to dominate then?

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