Responses to your questions from Blade

[hanterp]

I think you forgot the most important part: Ball Physics:
The way the white goes and it's speed is far better in VP3.
In WSC ( all versions ), didn't you notice how hard you have to hit the white to get it around the table and how enormous the decrease in speed is after hitting cushions?
If you want a decent comparisation, you should not forget this, as ball physics is the most important thing in any snooker-game.

[Caligula]

Maybe part of this is down to cue power which you can increase in skills. As this goes up you will be able to make the white travel further.

However, I agree that this does not explain the severe loss of pace after the cushions. Although i don't notice this too much as I rarely play real snooker and would have to watch it on tv for a comparison.

[DavisFan76]

I think you forgot the most important part: Ball Physics:
The way the white goes and it's speed is far better in VP3.
In WSC ( all versions ), didn't you notice how hard you have to hit the white to get it around the table and how enormous the decrease in speed is after hitting cushions?
If you want a decent comparisation, you should not forget this, as ball physics is the most important thing in any snooker-game.

The physics are a whole lot better in VP3.

[Fluke[FIN]]

The physics are a whole lot better in VP3.

Evening,

I must say I agree with You hanterp and DavisFan76.

If I would complain about the WSC, it definitely wouldnt be the sound. The sounds suck in vp3 too, in fact I like WSC sounds more than sounds in vp3, but the things that I appreciate in a snooker / pool game is something deeper than sound effects. The same goes for the graphics too, WSC takes the win out of vp3 very easily in this area. Well of course the games have 9 years of age-difference too.

You just can't tell a book by its cover.

I must say when Blade throw a statement that they have the most realistic physhics model in the business, it put a slight smile on my face

[DavisFan76]

Did they, indeed? That's got as much truth in it as their notion that they've got the same sounds as professional WSC tables...

Graphically, I can't complain, but going by most people here, gameplay/physics need a lot of work.

Edit: I suppose the reason I'm going on about the sounds so much is because it's an issue that could be fixed so very easily, maybe more so than some of the physics and gameplay related issues.

[Jobe]

Haha davisfan76 you're starting to risk sounding a little silly now mate and, honestly, I don't mean to be rude when I say that. It would be just as easy for blade to record genuine sounds using the proper equipment as it would for them to record them on non-professional equipment. They hold the official licensing rights so it would be easy for them to set up a recording session with the genuine equipment. Why would they lie about this?? Like I've stated already I believe blade when they say the sound is genuine, it's just played too loud. Do you not agree and if so, why? Also, is it just the cushion sounds being too loud/ not sounding right to you that is derogatory to the game experience or is other elements of the audio as well? As I mentioned earlier on in this thread if vp3 is wsc real 09s closest rival, breaking it all down, I think Real09 beats VP3 in the audio department.

I don't mean to sound like I'm getting at you personally nor that I'm blindly loyal to blade. WSC Real 09 isn't perfect but I've yet to find a snooker/pool game that is. ALL things can be improved. At the end of the day I don't think the sound related issues you have raised hold much water when it comes to ruining the gaming experience. Especially when you can turn all of the sounds down if you so wish.

[DavisFan76]

Jimmy White's Whirlwind Snooker ****es all over the gameplay of WSC Real 09 and that was released how many years ago exactly? Since then, snooker games have moved backwards, not forwards as far as gameplay is concerned.

Whether the sounds are real samples or not is neither here nor there. The issue is they've been implemented too loud. Don't these people test things like sound and say: 'Hold on a sec, that sounds a bit too loud'?

And while the poor sound doesn't damage the gameplay, it totally destroys the atmosphere.

Edit: You say you can turn down all the sounds. What, you can turn them all down individually? I find that highly unlikely. Not much good if you turn a sound down, but the ball contact sound then becomes too quiet as well, is it? If you're saying you can customise the sound to your absolute liking, post a screenshot of the sound menu and I'll admit defeat in this argument. But I'm not holding my breath. There wasn't such an option in any other game in the series, why should this one be any different?

[RGCirencester]

I get the feeling listening to clips that they had a real snooker table, with sophisticated microphones etc. to record the sound files, and then passed them along to the programmers who treated them the same as the crowd etc. but its not really a big deal if you can turn the sound effects down in the settings.

[dazzauk123]

Please Please Please give me a save game option mid game so I can continue from the start of the last frame played. AAAARRRRRGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!! Delaying a game several times then releasing it with so much oversight is stupidity!!

[Caligula]

Another thing that strikes me is that everyone complains about the commentary. Most of it is pointless and far too repetitive, but to give Blade credit I find that to be the case with most sports games.

They now allow you to turn down commentary frequency, but has anyone noticed that this seems to cause the commentary to babble for a few minutes then silence for a long time. It isn't more evenly spaced.

If you turn commentary off completely you lose the ref giving the scores. I find this a bit annoying as would like zero commentry but still here the ref. The ref should be completely independent sound from commentary.

[zimrahil]

Please Please Please give me a save game option mid game so I can continue from the start of the last frame played. AAAARRRRRGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!! Delaying a game several times then releasing it with so much oversight is stupidity!!

Don't know when you bought the game but I mentioned this 6 days ago here

[DavisFan76]

I get the feeling listening to clips that they had a real snooker table, with sophisticated microphones etc. to record the sound files, and then passed them along to the programmers who treated them the same as the crowd etc. but its not really a big deal if you can turn the sound effects down in the settings.

As long as you can turn them down individually. If you can only turn down all effects, then you lose the stupid cushion sound, but then the ball collision sound goes out of the window as well.

It's not just Blade who do this either. Look at the crowd chants in Fifa 09 PC (substandard at best) and the ones in PES 2009 (awful). So why is it that the fans can put together chant packs with sounds that make it hard to differentiate the game and a real football match?

[DavisFan76]

Don't know when you bought the game but I mentioned this 6 days ago here

Blade to intend to patch this save game nonsense, I trust?

[SnookDude]

If I am not mistaken, there is "cue power" skill that you can increase.

I belive this is what you need ...

I think you forgot the most important part: Ball Physics:
The way the white goes and it's speed is far better in VP3.
In WSC ( all versions ), didn't you notice how hard you have to hit the white to get it around the table and how enormous the decrease in speed is after hitting cushions?
If you want a decent comparisation, you should not forget this, as ball physics is the most important thing in any snooker-game.

[dazzauk123]

Don't know when you bought the game but I mentioned this 6 days ago here

Sorry mate I know its been mentioned as have other issues but to say Blade are supposed to be replying to these issuse they seem to be all quiet and that is annoying me even further so I listed the issues again.

Someone at Blade needs to stand up and be counted, OK maybe they cant code online play for the PC into a patch that I can get over but these damn right glaring simple mistakes I will not tolorate in a PC game these days.

I hope whoever licensed Blade with the rights to the snooker championship are also reading these comments and taking action this game is adverised all over sky and at the moment I pity any other poor soul who spend their hard earned cash on this utter dribble.