Wishlist for WSC Real 2010 (PC)

[DavisFan76]

I'm not sure if anyone has posted one yet, but there are a lot of things that need sorting out with this game, mostly little niggles but they still harm the overall quality. In fact, many of these could very easily be given to us by way of a patch. It would restore our faith in you, Blade. The ones that are in bold could be given in a patch in my opinion. Well, they could probably all be patched in, but the bold ones shouldn't provide any problems!! I've called this a wishlist for 2010, as I doubt we'll see any of these made in a patch, apart maybe from the save button.

So, I'll get us started:

1. Mouse controlled cueing! Just look at the VP games, Blade.
2. An option of two different aiming aids. Arcade/Classic (aiming arrows) or
Simulation/Advanced (similar to Jimmy White's series of snooker games - dotted line.)

3. The option for full length tournaments.
4. More testing to find graphical glitches (floating wig etc).
5. Less patronising and more informative commentary. Drop JV, bring back
Dennis Taylor!
6. The ability to get right down on the table to sight the shot as you would in real life.

7. A clear save button! There are reviews at play.com from people who think you can't save a match and continue, because there is no clear option! (In actual fact, if you quit after a frame and then choose 'next match', you'll be returned to the match.)

8. Online play in all versions!
9. More attention to detail
Sound: Cushions: Make them much quieter! In real snooker, you can hardly hear them! In this game, they sound like they're made of wood.
Pockets: There are numerous sounds that you get when you pot a ball in real snooker. Why not include more? Especially the long-shot sound (which is present on the pool table, but not snooker for some reason). The more attention to detail a game has, the better. It doesn't take long to add more samples now, does it?
Graphics:
Cues: Right now, the cues look like the gas pipes downstairs waiting to be fitted. Not finely crafted wooden ash!
Let's at least have the option to have animated AI players walking round the table?

10. Physics. Come on guys, how long have you been making these games now? The physics whenever you catch a ball very thin are completely messed up! Sometimes, a ball could be hanging over the pocket three quarters of the way, or in some cases right over the pocket, yet it defies gravity and stays up! And those cushions again. More response, people!

11. Please revert back to the original BBC Snooker theme! For those too young to know it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vh1RI...eature=related

12. Blade, take a look at PES 09. They enable you to scan a picture of yourself into the game for your player and it looks amazing. This feature would be very welcome in WSC Real 2010! Far better than what we have now where, let's face it, it's impossible to create your own face with any degree of accuracy.

An option to view the entire match from a first person viewpoint would be fun, whether you're at the table, or sitting in your chair.

Feel free to add more, guys.

[Harry_Potter]

Maybe the aiming options of the 2004/2005 version, with the aiming aids disabled on top view.

[dazzauk123]

7. A clear save button! There are reviews at play.com from people who think you can't save a match and continue, because there is no clear option! (In actual fact, if you quit after a frame and then choose 'next match', you'll be returned to the match.)[/B]

You will find the save feature only works if you quit and the very next thing you do is select Next Match. If you go into your profile to change colours or anything else you lose all progress from the save!!!! Making the game pointless plus all stats after you resume do not reflect what went before you resumed so again showing stats proves pointless too!!!!!
Surely a simple save and resume option isn't too much to ask and stats which reflect the gameplay would be a useful display too.

Yes the snooker play element is good but to say its a simulation not on your nelly even the rules for full competitions don't reflect real life, its like having a football game that only play 70 mins cause they cant be bothered counting beyond that.

Shoddy work all round and 2010 - 2011 or whenever the delayed release of 2010 comes out I won't be buying

[DavisFan76]

You will find the save feature only works if you quit and the very next thing you do is select Next Match. If you go into your profile to change colours or anything else you lose all progress from the save!!!! Making the game pointless plus all stats after you resume do not reflect what went before you resumed so again showing stats proves pointless too!!!!!
Surely a simple save and resume option isn't too much to ask and stats which reflect the gameplay would be a useful display too.

Yes the snooker play element is good but to say its a simulation not on your nelly even the rules for full competitions don't reflect real life, its like having a football game that only play 70 mins cause they cant be bothered counting beyond that.

Shoddy work all round and 2010 - 2011 or whenever the delayed release of 2010 comes out I won't be buying

It's not a simulation because all you do is press buttons. Now, if there was mouse cueing...

Edit: Odd. I'm sure I've played around in the profile and then been able to successfully load the saved game.

[Jimmy Brown Sauce]

Sell the licence to somebody who actually knows/cares about how to develop games.

[DavisFan76]

Or get the pros onboard for advice about the game and its physics/sound/whatever else and not just use them for adverts. Or get Archer McLean in to program it.

[zimrahil]

It's not a simulation because all you do is press buttons. Now, if there was mouse cueing...
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I guess that's down to how you interpret simulation. Most people regard Fifa 09 on consoles as a pretty good simulation but there's no actual kicking of a football

[DavisFan76]

I guess that's down to how you interpret simulation. Most people regard Fifa 09 on consoles as a pretty good simulation but there's no actual kicking of a football

True, but then again in real football, you can't control an entire team, can you? Whereas in Snooker, you're only controlling one player, as you would in real life: you. Mouse controlled cueing would immerse players into the game a whole lot more and add some skill to the game. That, combined with a Jimmy White's series style aiming aid, and more work on ball/cushion physics would make this game amazing.

[Caligula]

I agree with all of the comments raised. They are all very good points and cover the gripes we have.

[daveebee]

Hi All, Here's my wishes. I like the look of the table, I have the settings at max, a nice 60fps so no changes there . The pink ball can be a bit confusing in the middle of a load of reds,maybe change needed there. Online play, an absolute must,no other improvements will mean anything without that.Restore the levels of aiming assistance,I don't understand why it was left out in 09. Not everyone is an expert. I would very much like the ability to save a shot/frame/match for playing back. Obviously you need to be able to save a match ,especially when you run out of time to finish it . Personally there seem to be far too much emphasis on nicknames,fancy cues etc at the expense of an accurate,intuative game of snooker. By all means include those things for the kids ,but I'd like to be able to turn them off. If I can have that ,then I for one will be content.

[DavisFan76]

I'm adding this to my list:

Blade, take a look at PES 09. They enable you to scan a picture of yourself into the game for your player and it looks amazing. This feature would be very welcome in WSC Real 2010!

[hanterp]

Yeah, but don't look at the 360 version of PES 2009 as that is done with a very low quality cam
Don't look at the remaining of PES 2009 either as it was the worst of the series, especially on-line

[DavisFan76]

Indeed, just look closely at the quality of user's pictures scanned into the PC version of PES 2009. It is basically you, wearing your team's favourite shirt!

[Nicky]

I like to see just these things changed:

1. Accurate ranking system. The game must have proper Official and Provisional rankings. The rankings must be permanent for one entire season. So just have to make rankings like in real snooker.

2. Tournament structure. The tournaments must be like in real. Not playing 'best of 7' in the 1/8 final of Shanghai for example. Must have all the tournaments giving real ranking points and with real structure (not group phase for the Gradn Prix)

3. Ability to see what are good and bad points of other player's style of play. I'll give example from WSC 2003:


4. Improved AI players. They pot the balls from extremely difficult positions and pot balls tight on the cushions. This makes the safety exchange shorter and the frames are short and without long and interesting safety/snookers play. If the AI do what the real snooker players do (for example Hamilton - Carter in Welsh Open who were exchanging safety shots for 30 minutes). If frames in WSC are like this we will be more entertaining.
Because it's not interesting now just to play 2-3 shots in the start of the frame, the one of the players pot ball and the frame is particulaty over.

[DavisFan76]

I like to see just these things changed:

1. Accurate ranking system. The game must have proper Official and Provisional rankings. The rankings must be permanent for one entire season. So just have to make rankings like in real snooker.

2. Tournament structure. The tournaments must be like in real. Not playing 'best of 7' in the 1/8 final of Shanghai for example. Must have all the tournaments giving real ranking points and with real structure (not group phase for the Gradn Prix)

3. Ability to see what are good and bad points of other player's style of play. I'll give example from WSC 2003:


4. Improved AI players. They pot the balls from extremely difficult positions and pot balls tight on the cushions. This makes the safety exchange shorter and the frames are short and without long and interesting safety/snookers play. If the AI do what the real snooker players do (for example Hamilton - Carter in Welsh Open who were exchanging safety shots for 30 minutes). If frames in WSC are like this we will be more entertaining.
Because it's not interesting now just to play 2-3 shots in the start of the frame, the one of the players pot ball and the frame is particulaty over.

True, the AI need to place more emphasis on safety play and not go for these crazy shots down the cushions all the time!