How do you win games on wcs 09

[STEVE 09]

Well, i am playing WSC Real 09 in championship mode since September. I discovered that playing with the aiming aid and positional indicator on is far too easy! I didn't loose any match uptil now with rarely losing a frame. Even beating Ronnie O'Sullivan and John Higgins was no problem. Not realistic if you ask me

Therefore i am going to start all over, but this time at least with the positional indicator off. On a real snooker table you also can't see where your cue ball will finish. You will have to improve it by practising.
The aiming aid i will leave it on, cause otherwise it will be hardly impossible to pot a ball. It's a pitty you can't choose the difficulty level of the aiming aid like in the Codemasters editions (easy, normal or hard). I hope Blade will change that in future versions.
Also the possibility of a overhead view of the table by using the Y-button (xbox360) or square button (ps3) is rather silly. And if you would want to use it then at least the aiming aid and positional indicator should be invisible.

So by doing this it should be more a challenge to win a game, at least against the top players. And that's more realistic instead of always winning with 5-0, 8-1, 7-0 etc... :snooker:

It's the same with racing type games, where you can choose whether to have the driving line switched on or off. I still find this game a challenge even with the aiming aid turned on though and more often than not I always lose against the high ranked players.

I played better on this game last night and was achieving relatively high breaks, averaging around 40 or 50 points per break. I'm definately improving but still miss the occasional shot here and there.

Ronnie O'Sullivan beat me last night in a quarter final match at the UK Championship and wiped the floor with me in the first frame. I made a decent opening break behind the balk colours and Ronnie potted a long red and then went on to win the frame in one visit. The second frame I miss judged a safety shot and ended up hitting it a little too hard. Ronnie then found a lose red and won again in one visit. One thing I've learned about playing players like Ronnie is if you make the slightest mistake they will punish you and sometimes they fluke a long red and still beat you. Sod's law

I'll give it another shot tonight though. Last night I qualified for two tournaments on the trot which is the first time I'd ever done that, so tonight will be determined to win a tournament. I just hope I don't face Ronnie again

[sjsharp2008]

It's the same with racing type games, where you can choose whether to have the driving line switched on or off. I still find this game a challenge even with the aiming aid turned on though and more often than not I always lose against the high ranked players.

I played better on this game last night and was achieving relatively high breaks, averaging around 40 or 50 points per break. I'm definately improving but still miss the occasional shot here and there.

Ronnie O'Sullivan beat me last night in a quarter final match at the UK Championship and wiped the floor with me in the first frame. I made a decent opening break behind the balk colours and Ronnie potted a long red and then went on to win the frame in one visit. The second frame I miss judged a safety shot and ended up hitting it a little too hard. Ronnie then found a lose red and won again in one visit. One thing I've learned about playing players like Ronnie is if you make the slightest mistake they will punish you and sometimes they fluke a long red and still beat you. Sod's law

I'll give it another shot tonight though. Last night I qualified for two tournaments on the trot which is the first time I'd ever done that, so tonight will be determined to win a tournament. I just hope I don't face Ronnie again

I remember beating Ronnie once on one of the older Codemasters games and how I did is was this I just generally kept it tight so he had to create his own opportunities then I think he just got frustrated cause by keeping it tight I just picked him off slowly. because he isn't the best at safetyuplay I've found on these games and I tried to use this to my advantage becausew I knwe I couldn't outpot him it proved to be a good game though

Up until recently though I've never had any success on the Blade games but recently I changed my tactics a bit to reflect a little bit moer on the safety side of the game cause I was thinking thaty I was relying too much on the old Ronnie trick of trying to pot my way out of trouble which is what I used on the Codemasters games and it often worked on there it dosen't so much on the Blade games and maybe that was the reason why I wasn't qualifying for any tournaments much less winning them since then I've managed to qualifyt for 4 or5 tournaments. and a few days ago0 I won my first tournament on the game the Grand Prix admittedly it's on the 2005 version and it's taken me about 4 or 5 years to do it but I was delighted I'd finally broken my duck I'm hoping I can improve though and win more tournaments soon. Fortunately I di9dn't have tro play Ronnie the only big fish I had to fry was John Parrott and I had beaten him before so knwe if I kept my head I could do it again and didI gewnerally prefer the 2005 version because I find the controls relatively simple to handle and for me being disabled I generally find simple works best for me. Next up for me is the UK Championship and hopefully I get some success there. I have 07 and 09 as well I just generally prefer 05 to them even if the graphics aren't quite as sharp

[STEVE 09]

I remember beating Ronnie once on one of the older Codemasters games and how I did is was this I just generally kept it tight so he had to create his own opportunities then I think he just got frustrated cause by keeping it tight I just picked him off slowly. because he isn't the best at safetyuplay I've found on these games and I tried to use this to my advantage becausew I knwe I couldn't outpot him it proved to be a good game though

Up until recently though I've never had any success on the Blade games but recently I changed my tactics a bit to reflect a little bit moer on the safety side of the game cause I was thinking thaty I was relying too much on the old Ronnie trick of trying to pot my way out of trouble which is what I used on the Codemasters games and it often worked on there it dosen't so much on the Blade games and maybe that was the reason why I wasn't qualifying for any tournaments much less winning them since then I've managed to qualifyt for 4 or5 tournaments. and a few days ago0 I won my first tournament on the game the Grand Prix admittedly it's on the 2005 version and it's taken me about 4 or 5 years to do it but I was delighted I'd finally broken my duck I'm hoping I can improve though and win more tournaments soon. Fortunately I di9dn't have tro play Ronnie the only big fish I had to fry was John Parrott and I had beaten him before so knwe if I kept my head I could do it again and didI gewnerally prefer the 2005 version because I find the controls relatively simple to handle and for me being disabled I generally find simple works best for me. Next up for me is the UK Championship and hopefully I get some success there. I have 07 and 09 as well I just generally prefer 05 to them even if the graphics aren't quite as sharp

Same here, in the earlier Codemasters Snooker games, I could also beat the likes of O'Sullivan, Hendry, Higgins etc. In the 2004 edition, which is still my favourite snooker game to date, I reached World No 1. You also didn't have to go through quite as many qualifying matches in that edition either. There where some, but not as many as there seems to be in WSC Real 2009.

But I agree, I can't seem to ever beat the higher ranked players in the Blade snooker games, although I beat some high ranked players and nearly beat the World No 2 yesterday.

I think the key to winning the big players and something which I've learnt over the weekend, is to try and experiment a little with the long pots and learn the acute angle to use to pot these long balls. I managed to succesfully pot some long reds over the weekend and keep in position for the black or pink and still be on the next red.

If however there is no long pot on, then gently nudge the cue ball up behind the cluster of reds if possible, or if the cluster of reds have been disturbed at this point, then hit the cue ball mid to full force and play safe back to the baulk area. Keep with this strategy and I've noticed a lot of the cpu players soon make mistakes, some big and some small but most of the time they will make an error which often leads you on to an easy red.

Another thing I've noticed, when the the cpu does make a mistake and leaves you on a red, I tend to always go for the less obvious red. Quite a few times when I've gone for the obvious available red, I've either snookered myself or ran out of position. Yet when I pot the least obvious red, I always seem to end up in a great position and sometimes even win the frame in one visit.

[sjsharp2008]

Same here, in the earlier Codemasters Snooker games, I could also beat the likes of O'Sullivan, Hendry, Higgins etc. In the 2004 edition, which is still my favourite snooker game to date, I reached World No 1. You also didn't have to go through quite as many qualifying matches in that edition either. There where some, but not as many as there seems to be in WSC Real 2009.

But I agree, I can't seem to ever beat the higher ranked players in the Blade snooker games, although I beat some high ranked players and nearly beat the World No 2 yesterday.

I think the key to winning the big players and something which I've learnt over the weekend, is to try and experiment a little with the long pots and learn the acute angle to use to pot these long balls. I managed to succesfully pot some long reds over the weekend and keep in position for the black or pink and still be on the next red.

If however there is no long pot on, then gently nudge the cue ball up behind the cluster of reds if possible, or if the cluster of reds have been disturbed at this point, then hit the cue ball mid to full force and play safe back to the baulk area. Keep with this strategy and I've noticed a lot of the cpu players soon make mistakes, some big and some small but most of the time they will make an error which often leads you on to an easy red.

Another thing I've noticed, when the the cpu does make a mistake and leaves you on a red, I tend to always go for the less obvious red. Quite a few times when I've gone for the obvious available red, I've either snookered myself or ran out of position. Yet when I pot the least obvious red, I always seem to end up in a great position and sometimes even win the frame in one visit.

yeah although I never made Number 1 I won a fwe tournaments on th e Codemasters ones I think I did make it into the top 10 though but for some reason my Codemasters ones seem to have stopped working so I've really just abandoned them lately but I think what Blade has done was try and add a little bit of realism by giving each tournament a realistic structure based on how Snooker is now rather than just producing a simple snooker gamee with just a handful of players which I think is a good thing but they should at least make suer the controls aer reasonably easy to use I've just generally found when it comes to the controls that both 07 and 09 aer fiddly when it comes to lining the shots up accurately and the same with setting up the spin and Virgo complaining about you taking ages dosen't exactrly help much either to be honest that's why I like 05 it's easy to line up shots I think it's mainly cause 05 ruuns things a bit slower which is better really given snooker isn't erally supposed to be a fast game all you have to dio is just get your head in the right frame of mind and judge the shot right which is still not easy but I'd rather lose to me misjudging a shot than the computer complaining I'm taking too long but in time I'll probably give 07 and 09 asnother crack but I'm prefering 05 at the moment

[STEVE 09]

I'd love to play the 2004 edition again, but no longer have a PS2 unfortunately

I didn't like 2005 or the 2007 editions at all. The 2007 edition was the worst one of the two though. I just found it really hard to even get a break of 20

In the 2009 edition though it is at least easier to get a sizeable break, thanks to the nice closer view of the table and the way you can now manage how hard or how softly you can play a shot using the right thumbstick of the controller.

I managed to get to the semi final of the Grand Prix last night. I got beat by Ronnie O'Sullivan yet again and this time he was on fire and I couldn't seem to done anything right. I think it was just bad luck on my part.

I'm currently ranked at 34 and I still can't get above a 76 break, but getting really close the more I play though. I'm determined to get a century break and eventually win a tournament. The more I play this though the better I'm getting at it

[Welshsteve]

I just won my first ranking title on this game, beating Ronnie O'Sullivan in the Grand Prix final

[sjsharp2008]

I'd love to play the 2004 edition again, but no longer have a PS2 unfortunately

I didn't like 2005 or the 2007 editions at all. The 2007 edition was the worst one of the two though. I just found it really hard to even get a break of 20

In the 2009 edition though it is at least easier to get a sizeable break, thanks to the nice closer view of the table and the way you can now manage how hard or how softly you can play a shot using the right thumbstick of the controller.

I managed to get to the semi final of the Grand Prix last night. I got beat by Ronnie O'Sullivan yet again and this time he was on fire and I couldn't seem to done anything right. I think it was just bad luck on my part.

I'm currently ranked at 34 and I still can't get above a 76 break, but getting really close the more I play though. I'm determined to get a century break and eventually win a tournament. The more I play this though the better I'm getting at it

|My biggest break on 05 is 104 I think my biggest on 07 and 09 is maybe 50 I don't really remember I may have got a 70 but I'm not sure I don't remember but I think I got that moer through luck than judgement everyshot I played in that frame just seemed to go exactly where I wanted to I nearly qualified for the Welsh Open tonight on it but John Higgns didn't give me any opportuntities in the deciding frame of our match in the final round of qualifying which was frustrating but happens in Snooker

[STEVE 09]

|My biggest break on 05 is 104 I think my biggest on 07 and 09 is maybe 50 I don't really remember I may have got a 70 but I'm not sure I don't remember but I think I got that moer through luck than judgement everyshot I played in that frame just seemed to go exactly where I wanted to I nearly qualified for the Welsh Open tonight on it but John Higgns didn't give me any opportuntities in the deciding frame of our match in the final round of qualifying which was frustrating but happens in Snooker

Unfortunately yes this occasionally happens. I was very frustrated the other day when I played Ronnie O'Sullivan in the Quarter Final of the Masters. It was the best to 3 frames. I won the opening frame with ease, getting nicely onto the black early on in the frame and clearing up with a 68 break. Ronnie tried to play for snookers, but couldn't get the position and I ended up potting yellow, green and brown but missed the blue. Ronnie conceded this frame but then Ronnie won the next frame by fluking a long red from the baulk area. He then achieved a break of 143

Then the deciding frame came and I missed a red. I was fuming as it was a sitter as well. Ronnie then won the frame in one visit and that was that sadly.

It seems to me with the likes of Ronnie and the other big players, if you make one mistake, that can often be enough to see you lose the frame and this was proved with this match the other day. In future I'm going to have to evaluate each shot carefully and if there is the slightest chance of missing it, I'm going to have to go down the safety line. I don't like to play safe, but will have to I think if I'm going to win these big players.

[sjsharp2008]

Unfortunately yes this occasionally happens. I was very frustrated the other day when I played Ronnie O'Sullivan in the Quarter Final of the Masters. It was the best to 3 frames. I won the opening frame with ease, getting nicely onto the black early on in the frame and clearing up with a 68 break. Ronnie tried to play for snookers, but couldn't get the position and I ended up potting yellow, green and brown but missed the blue. Ronnie conceded this frame but then Ronnie won the next frame by fluking a long red from the baulk area. He then achieved a break of 143

Then the deciding frame came and I missed a red. I was fuming as it was a sitter as well. Ronnie then won the frame in one visit and that was that sadly.

It seems to me with the likes of Ronnie and the other big players, if you make one mistake, that can often be enough to see you lose the frame and this was proved with this match the other day. In future I'm going to have to evaluate each shot carefully and if there is the slightest chance of missing it, I'm going to have to go down the safety line. I don't like to play safe, but will have to I think if I'm going to win these big players.

yeah that's what I tend to do against the big players anyway because I know I don't have any hope of out potting them even though I'm not that bad a potter I do miss the odd one I missed a few yesterday when playing in the end all you can do is try and keep it tight and hope the player your against dosen't find anything to have a go at or if he does that he screws up because unfortunately there is a limit to what you can do even against the big people. I'm just hoping I can get lucky tonight and qualify for one when I play

[CeeJay147]

@bharrison - Sorry this isn't relevant but do you play in Cuestars tournaments?

[STEVE 09]

yeah that's what I tend to do against the big players anyway because I know I don't have any hope of out potting them even though I'm not that bad a potter I do miss the odd one I missed a few yesterday when playing in the end all you can do is try and keep it tight and hope the player your against dosen't find anything to have a go at or if he does that he screws up because unfortunately there is a limit to what you can do even against the big people. I'm just hoping I can get lucky tonight and qualify for one when I play

My session on WSC 09 last night was a bit of a disaster. I started off at rank 34 and ended up dropping back to 38 because I didn't qualify for 5 tournaments on the trot. My long range potting on fairly easy reds which I often go for, was dreadful. I kept missing them and was missing easy blacks no and then as well. I was also finding it hard to pot reds in the middle pocket. I never seem to be able to pot balls accurately in these pockets for some reason.

So I've got a bit of catching up to do tonight. I was improving towards the end of my session last night, but didn't want to run the risk of dropping my ranking any further, so decided to call it a day and start a fresh today.

I go through phases when I play this where sometimes if I feel confident enough potting the long reds, I'll go for it, yet some days I opt for the safety approach instead. Most of the time I usually pot the long reds with ease if they are near the bottom cussion, yet occasionally like last night, they just weren't going in.

Loving this game though, probably more so now than I've ever done. It's one of those games I've become so determined to beat. My first goal however is to achieve that first century break. I managed to score a 62 break last night, which was great considering how bad I was playing, but still a long way to go before I hit the magic 100 mark

[snookerfan91]

Possibly try playing 100% of the game length (more frames), so you have more chance. I have had no problem but still struggling to get the 147.

[sjsharp2008]

Possibly try playing 100% of the game length (more frames), so you have more chance. I have had no problem but still struggling to get the 147.

Actually I've already tried that I think playing shorter matches is easier as since I've switched t shorter matches I've qualified for 6 or 7 tournaments and also won one as I won the Grand Prix recently whereas prior to that playing 100% matches I've never qualified for a tournament much less won one I thin the strategy I've adapted works however if I start doing well and I end up right near the top of the rankings and win the world championship then maybe I'll try again at the longer matches

[snookerfan91]

That's all I did for the first couple of months getting used to the game, I used to play full length but sometimes it can get boring and no challenge.

I now normally play 50% unless it's a final, I haven't fully completed the game but only briefly played bits of pool on it and not very fond of it I prefer the snooker.

To win the top players like the likes of O'Sullivan you need to play very tactical and not let them get a chance of a long red because the cpu will take on any shot out there and normally you will lose that frame, from my experience anyways.

I don't have problems beating the top players if I take my time but sometimes my concentration gets the better of me and I miss an easy ball or run myself out of position.

Keep me posted on how you are doing with the game... how often do you play on it?
Practice makes perfect as there say!

Also the cue on this game depends alot, I use the one I like the look of but I definitely notice the difference and I have lots of points on it too so for example the top two of the list are 100, I very rarely miss.

Best of luck.

[Simonov]

Now that's really frustrating... I've put some almost impossible snookers and the computer gets out of the situation every time. It's a 100% success. Now that's just ridiculous... I give up the frame every time I end up in need of some snookers, as it's pointless to play.