Pro cup balls

[justf]

I know pro cup white balls are slightly heavier than normal cue ball but does anybody know if the rest of the balls are? Friend bought a set and swears that they are heavier than normal aramith balls but I cant seem to find out if thats true, the reds are deeper colour and black now stripey but heavier? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Super-Aram...item48682fc857 Thanks for any replies.

[desso]

Justin, did you get my message?

[Kieran m]

None of the balls are heavier.

The balls are a more consistent weight I.e. Made to a tighter tolerance and are made from a slightly different material which reacts in a different way to the normal balls.

[danam1]

None of the balls are heavier.

The balls are a more consistent weight I.e. Made to a tighter tolerance and are made from a slightly different material which reacts in a different way to the normal balls.

Spot on! All balls are the same. I love them! I'm getting some once my pool room is ready because that's what we play with in the league.

[rdsalt]

Yes, I have 2 sets of Pro Cups and 2 sets of Premiers (Green Box) and the balls in the Pro Cup sets are a few grammes heavier than the Premiers.

[danam1]

Just read your post properly justf
I think the white is nearly 1 gram heavier than the normal whites. But it doesn't seem to make any difference at all.

[rdsalt]

If I remember correctly off the top of my head the Premiers were 115g and the Pro Cups 118g.

[danam1]

If I remember correctly off the top of my head the Premiers were 115g and the Pro Cups 118g.

There's a massive difference of up to 10 grams among normal balls but only a couple of grams in variation among pro cup balls http://www.stevedaking.com/hustlebox...&x=-734&y=-161

[Kieran m]

http://www.stevedaking.com/hustlebox...ed-spot-weigh/

This is quite interesting regarding the weight of the white ball

[danam1]

I think this quote says it al really,

"I think the one thing we have learnt is that because the weight of the plain cue balls varies so much, then it is pointless to be bothered about the extra weight that red spots may or may not add to the cue ball".

[rdsalt]

Yes, read that article before but I think he has just taken random old cue balls out of any set of balls from different manufacturers, I would doubt if you took a dozen new sets of Aramith Premiers that there would be much difference in weight of the cue balls or object balls. I only have 2 sets of each to test, so its hardly scientific but when I weighed them both sets of Premiers weighed the same and both sets of Pro Cups weighed the same and both sets of Pro Cups were a few grammes heavier.

[rdsalt]

I think this quote says it al really,

"I think the one thing we have learnt is that because the weight of the plain cue balls varies so much, then it is pointless to be bothered about the extra weight that red spots may or may not add to the cue ball".

Agree with that, when you play in the league you don't weigh the balls you just get down and play.

[rdsalt]

Had a quick weigh at lunchtime, as I said its only 2 sets of each so its nowhere near enough for an accurate result and it could just be coincidence but both sets of my Pro Cups are heavier than the Premiers, you are only speaking about 1-2% difference though, I doubt normal players would notice any difference in weight when playing.

Premier set 1 = 1837g
Premier set 2 = 1850g
Pro Cup set 1 = 1868g
Pro Cup set 2 = 1877g

[SnkrRef]

The ProCup balls certainly do seem to be heavier than other balls, but maybe it's the different composition that makes them noticeably different in the way they play. I certainly wouldn't think that a gramme or two would make a noticeable difference. After all, difference between normal club snooker balls and Tournament Champion/3G/IG sets is considerably more: 141gm or thereabouts compared to about 125 or 127gm for normal balls.

[rdsalt]

Yes, some players say they notice a big difference playing with the spotted white, unfortunately I'm not a good enough standard to comment on that. I think the problem could be that the balls are mixed, ie using a Pro Cup cue ball and standard Premier balls as its much cheaper than a full set of Pro Cups, so you are using a cue ball with a different composition from the rest of the set.