How to change a brass screwed ferrule

[Shockerz]

Hi

I have changed many non screwed ferrules and concentrate on really taking my time when removing and have had very good success in the past but cannot seem to find the non screwed type (if anyone knows a source that would be great!).

So, I have ordered a few screwed type ferrules as I like to do up old cues and need to learn.

Could anyone give me a rough few steps to do this in their opinion as I would like to know both methods.

As always, thanks for listening (sounds like fraser!).

[RogiBear]

Lots of places to buy non-threaded ferrules, easiest place is probably dave coutts as he sells them on ebay. To remove ferrules I use a small blow torch to heat and melt the glue then twist off with a pair of pliers. If the tenon needs adjusting for the new ferrule I use a very fine file to fit. I have done a couple of threaded ferrules and found it a lot easier if you use a tap to thread it before hand, but out of choice I would pick non-threaded every time. If I needed to make the tenon from scratch I used to use a pipe cutter to score the base line around the shaft, then used a very sharp chisel to remove the majority and then a file to finish. I now use a tenon cutter which is much easier and quicker.

[Shockerz]

Hi Adam

It's funny I tried the fine blow torch touch but struggled to stop the flame creeping toward the cue which frightened me to death. I now just file both sides and they all just fall away. I do it very carefully and haven't touch any wood on the tenon so it works for me.

Do you use this tenon cutter?

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I'll have to look in the garage for my tap and die set and hopefully the threads are reasonably compatable.

Thanks for the steer.

[darrenlowe79]

How to change a brass screwed ferrule

a lighter will do the same job mate i thought a blow torch would put to much heat into it

[RogiBear]

Hi Adam

It's funny I tried the fine blow torch touch but struggled to stop the flame creeping toward the cue which frightened me to death. I now just file both sides and they all just fall away. I do it very carefully and haven't touch any wood on the tenon so it works for me.

Do you use this tenon cutter?

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I'll have to look in the garage for my tap and die set and hopefully the threads are reasonably compatable.

Thanks for the steer.

I angle the torch on the ferrule but away from the shaft, I also mask the shaft immediately below the ferrule to stop any heat backlash scorching it.

Alternatively you can use a lighter to do the same job.

Yep that's the cutter I use.

[jim evans]

If i don't want to damage shaft I use a small candle.

[Shockerz]

Hi Jim how are you?

Not a bad call with a candle, might give that a go and possibly the angling of the blow torch (I was in the heating game for 32 years so a little embarrassed, must have thought I was blowing a joint!).

I did look at one of those ferrule tools but it seemed a little expensive. I then saw the same cutter but it only did pool cue sizes for $179 (£106). If I could find one for the same money with the correct bore I might get one of those.

[jim evans]

Hi Marc I use a tea candle, I use a tenon cutter as well, think it cost me £60, but memory is **** lol ��.

[Shockerz]

I can appreciate a failing memory, the fact I find my way home 9 times out of 10 is a godsend.

Can you remember where you bought it as I wouldn't mind having a go with one.

I'm still looking at lathes; seems most the Midlands and North have plenty on ebay but the South can't have been doing a lot of turning as there are very few; I'm patient though and still have to clear the garage of a few more items!

[jb134]

I've used a candle for years. Now of matches and a 30p candle will gently remove about a hundred ferrules vs gas for blowtorches, lighters etc. tight git ;-) the blowtorch is for getting joints out.

Threaded ferrules are generally thicker and this affects throw etc. it also means to replace threaded with unthreaded you generally need a thicker ferrule. I like threaded, once you get good enough, you don't need glue!

Best tip is err on the side of the timber being too thick.

[Shockerz]

When the ferrule comes I'll try the dies on the dowels, seems common sense to ensure a thicker ferrule when changing for a screwed ferrule buts that's the trouble with common sense, "It ain't that common!"

I didn't give it a thought!

[inevermissblue]

I also like to do up cues. I find that using a soldering iron is the best way to remove the old ferrule. I have a mate at work who knocks me up a few stainless steel ones when i need them. I have successfully fitted three to date and quite enjoy the challenge! Just got my hands on a lovely Joe Davis maple which is now my main playing cue. Re-fitted ferrule, slimmed down cue from 11mm to 10mm. Also removed varnish from butt, cleaned up the name badge to look like new. Gave it a really nice clean up, then treated it with linseed and a beeswax seal. It is now a thing of beauty!

[fredkite]

I also like to do up cues. I find that using a soldering iron is the best way to remove the old ferrule. I have a mate at work who knocks me up a few stainless steel ones when i need them. I have successfully fitted three to date and quite enjoy the challenge! Just got my hands on a lovely Joe Davis maple which is now my main playing cue. Re-fitted ferrule, slimmed down cue from 11mm to 10mm. Also removed varnish from butt, cleaned up the name badge to look like new. Gave it a really nice clean up, then treated it with linseed and a beeswax seal. It is now a thing of beauty!

Out of interest what method did you use to slim the cue down to a 10mm tip?

[Shockerz]

Yeah I be interested how you slimmed the cue as I would have thought that would have changed it's play, read that it can ruin some cues!

[inevermissblue]

Just good old fashioned elbow grease and a good selection of paper grades! I did have to do it a few times as the taper was too fast from the tip to 18inches.