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  • kamui v's Elk

    I'm trying a Kamui 'M' black for the first time over my usual Elk master, I've used Elk over the last ten years or more

    I've played about four hours with the Kamui and only re shaped once, I have always put on my own tips, I must say that the Kamui was real easy, I even used the over size pencil sharpener, which was just the job, no cutting the tip down with a stanley knife from an 11mm to 10.25 ferrule once it was glued in place

    There's no leather fraying on the Laminated Kamui unlike the Elk, Q's does anyone use anything to burnish their tip side walls once on ??

    It's playing ok, too early to say whether I prefer it over the Elk !!
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    I use a Kamui Black (medium) on my cue. I was just careful not shape it wrong and lift the layers which delaminates the tip. To finish the side of my tip I used a very fine sand paper.
    I've had the tip on for some time now and havn't had to re-shape or rough it up like I would have any others.

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    • #3
      not worth it in my worthless opinion...using a mastercue black at the minute and find it a lot better

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      • #4
        Kamui is too stiff for me. Using phoenix M and its perfect.
        Proud winner of the 2009 Premier League Semi-Final Prediction Contest

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        • #5
          kamui v's Elk

          There is the dilemma, I can pick up a box of 50 elk's for about £15 ish or do I go and spend money on laminated tips at £5 a pop,

          Every snooker player will comment differently and voice in there opinion what is the best tip, manufactures have us all by the nuts, try this it will improve your game, the pros's are paid to like them, we have to foot the bill

          I purchased four Kamui m tips, if i don't note a vast difference in the way they play, I'll be dipping back into my box of 59 Elks, they should last me until I retire and won't cost me my pension )))

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          • #6
            I tried a Kamui "Hard" and was like a Stone! I have just fitted a MW Laminated Super Tip to mine and Yes feels very Hard and very Different from Pressed Tips but seems very good at Present as Long as I keep Chalking it and hasnt lost any shape at all. I will try the Master Cue Tips Next then the Phoenix Tip and see what the Difference in those 3 are and will let you all know.

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            • #7
              kamui v's Elk

              Cheers , would appreciate the feed back on how you get on,

              Although this kamui I have on has only had about four hours, it does feel hard, feeling like your next shot could be a miss cue ! If you don't load with chalk

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              • #8
                I tried a kamui m for about three weeks, i didn't play as good so i reverted back to elks which i've had most success with.

                Also i've put on three talisman soft and they have all split and come apart, they were 11mm and i used one of those pencil sharpener type tools to trim them down to 9.5mm, should i get a refund or did i do something wrong?

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                • #9
                  I think elk gives more feel on a slow cloth

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                  • #10
                    I just purchased 3 Kumui M black aswell.. might try them soon, currently using a Talisman soft, haven't re-shaped it or anything else for like 1.5 years.. probably got lucky there, but the tip before that was a Talisman M, and also was perfect and played it for half a year

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                    • #11
                      I,ve tried every tip yhat i could getmy hands on . Certain tips will suit certain cues as i,ve put the same tip on two of my playing cues and they felt and reacted totally different . i find a softer tip is better on a stiff cue and a harder tip is nice on a cue with more flex . But we can all get lost looking for solutions to problems that lie with ourselves , i,ve had big breaks with almost every tip i,ve thought was worth keeping on . Sometimes we need to look at ourselves and not our tools .

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                      • #12
                        Originally Posted by matt926_uk View Post
                        ...Also i've put on three talisman soft and they have all split and come apart, they were 11mm and i used one of those pencil sharpener type tools to trim them down to 9.5mm, should i get a refund or did i do something wrong?
                        Maybe they're meant for pressed tips.

                        Try this... Invert your cue and put the tip against a hard surface. Use a sharp blade, maybe a stanley knife to trim the excess side off with a downward cutting motion. Be patient, take thin cuts. Dome it with a downward motion too.

                        I never had a laminated tip come apart by doing it this way (touch wood).
                        When life gives you lemons, don't make lemonade. Make life take the lemons back. GET MAD!!

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                        • #13
                          I've played with Kamui Black now for about a year or so and i find only two things that really bother me.
                          When you misscue badly it leaves a spot on the cueball that doesn't seem to come off ..
                          And it wears off pretty fast compared to other tips.
                          "It's just a shot away" -Rolling Stones-

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                          • #14
                            I've tried them all and I prefer either the Talisman S or the Phoenix M (although I haven't tried the Mastercraft as I didn't know they existed. When installing any layered tip I'm very careful and do not cut them down but rather use a coarse file and only stroke downwards so I'm not loosening the layers.

                            Another great tip is the Aurora layered although I do find them a little thick and normally take off the top layer which makes them play a little harder. They last a long time and never need re-shaping

                            Terry
                            Terry Davidson
                            IBSF Master Coach & Examiner

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                            • #15
                              Burnish the tip with a beer mat. Just rub it up and down fast and it will 'burn' the sides of the leather nicely.

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