Getting fed up of League Snooker in my area.

[tomwalker147]

We need to put X'box's, playstations, red bull, protein supplements angry birds into every club!

maybe not as ludicrous as it sounds I'm frustrated with snooker as a whole. The local club that you could hear a pin drop in years ago is now far too loud. People do not understand the etiquette and walk infront of your shots. When I first started as a youngster i'd expect a telling off for ignoring what to me is basic etiquette.

Interesting GuernseyGooner that you mention your youngest players are around 24. I got to the semi final of our under 25's comp last year without even playing a game having got a bye through the first round which was the quarters. That sums up the amount of youngsters who are interested nowadays.

[haggishunter]

You say you won the match 3-2. What's the format of matches? 5 frames isn't a lot, especially if you're playing on two tables. Our local league, which back in the late 80s and 90s always had 35-40 teams, has trundled along with just one division of about 8 teams for quite a few years now, but each player plays two frames, so 8 frames in total.

This is the same frame format for the Edinburgh league, it also opens the door for draws as well, meaning that its not a case of win or lose takes pressure off a bit I think. We also operate a handicap system, when you start in the league you are played off 25 (it goes from -65 up to +45 in increments of 5). There are a lot of players within the league that don't like the handicaps but I think that fo the most part it works out ok. There are always going to be people that play to the handicaps though i.e getting beat on purpose towards the end of the season in order to keep their handicap where it is.... utterly pointless I think as the only person you are cheating here is yourself.
have a look at our webpage if you like, might give you/other people some ideas.

http://eica.leaguerepublic.com/l/fg/1_679345389.html

[Londonlad147]

In the 1991/92 season when we went from 36 teams to 41 we started a Premier Division which was handicapped. Unlike a lot of leagues we have always allowed teams to make up their own teams, rather than have clubs put the best ones in the 'A' team, the next best in the 'B' team etc, so we always had quite a mish mash of abilities in every team. There were a relatively few really good players (by local standards) and with a small number of teams where they played each other homne and away twice, we needed the handicaps to keep the lesser players happy.

The handicaps soon spread to the other divisions, and the system we started off with 20-odd years ago still worked best IMHO... each player moved up or down 3 points depending on whether they won or lost (or stayed the same if drawn). After a full season the handicaps were soon at more or less the right level, but because there are only say 10% consistently good and 10% consistently poor players, the rest can vary enormously from week to week, so inevitably there can be some 'discussions' at times. Over time, though, you really can't argue.

[GeordieDS]

Give it ten years and you'll struggle to find a league to play in with everywhere closing down, it mightn't be as good as it was but it's a night out for me,a few beers and a game of snooker,better than sitting in and wanting to put a sledgehammer through the wall when i hear the Eastenders theme coming from the neighbours

[tomwalker147]

Give it ten years and you'll struggle to find a league to play in with everywhere closing down, it mightn't be as good as it was but it's a night out for me,a few beers and a game of snooker,better than sitting in and wanting to put a sledgehammer through the wall when i hear the Eastenders theme coming from the neighbours

From the neighbours? My Mrs makes me watch it, hence me joining a Monday,Wednesday and Thursday league!

[itsnoteasy]

Has anyone ever played in a league where you just have players not teams?

I wonder of there's any potential for that when there are too few teams in a league or just as an additional attraction?

We tried it in the summer, each match six frames so you could get a draw, once folk had lost two or three they lost interest and wouldn't complete their fixtures which ruined it for everyone.
Our league is down to two divisions now and every year teams drop out, it was three leagues when I joined and that's only three seasons ago, I rekon as has been said 5-10 years and it's over.
If we held an under 25 tourney, there would be no one to enter it, there would have been one lad but he went to uni this year:upset:

[Shockerz]

We tried it in the summer, each match six frames so you could get a draw, once folk had lost two or three they lost interest and wouldn't complete there fixtures which ruined it for everyone.
Our league is down to two divisions now and every year teams drop out, it was three leagues when I joined and that's only three seasons ago, I rekon as has been said 5-10 years and it's over.
If we held an under 25 tourney, there would be no one to enter it, there would have been one lad but he went to uni this year:upset:

From what I understand the Steve Davis and Terry Griffiths school of coaches is trying hard to get it into schools so hopefully they will have some success.

[Londonlad147]

Back in the early noughties we revised our format for our summer league, because it was a difficult task for a lot of the teams to get sufficient regular players each week during the summer months. We didn't have set fixtures: it was just turn up on the night and play. Each player paid £5 a night, with £2 going to the club, £2 into an end of season pot, and £1 for an on the night prize.

Players (handicapped) got drawn into random groups of three or four players, with either the winner or top two goiung through to a knoackout stage. Points were gained depending on performance and the cumulative prize fund was paid out at the end of season to the top X players. It was great fun, everyone enjoyed it as they were playing for themselves without the pressure of team performance. We used to get mid-20s taking part.

Whilst this was, of necessity, played at a club (with 10 tables), there's no reason why you couldn't adapt it if you've got sufficient committed players, where you could have a formal fixture list with matches at different venues.

[Shockerz]

Back in the early noughties we revised our format for our summer league, because it was a difficult task for a lot of the teams to get sufficient regular players each week during the summer months. We didn't have set fixtures: it was just turn up on the night and play. Each player paid £5 a night, with £2 going to the club, £2 into an end of season pot, and £1 for an on the night prize.

Players (handicapped) got drawn into random groups of three or four players, with either the winner or top two goiung through to a knoackout stage. Points were gained depending on performance and the cumulative prize fund was paid out at the end of season to the top X players. It was great fun, everyone enjoyed it as they were playing for themselves without the pressure of team performance. We used to get mid-20s taking part.

Whilst this was, of necessity, played at a club (with 10 tables), there's no reason why you couldn't adapt it if you've got sufficient committed players, where you could have a formal fixture list with matches at different venues.

We will probably have our first summer this year after discussing it last year. One of the snooker captains made the comment that without the league his club didn't have any visitors on the league night so we are just considering differing formats as not all players will want to play in the summer.

We even thought about making it a fun thing with the line up as one frame and having to break from the D. As soon as snookers are requited the player with the lowest score has lost.

Still playing though.......

[lennon11]

Has anyone ever played in a league where you just have players not teams?

I wonder of there's any potential for that when there are too few teams in a league or just as an additional attraction?

we set one up 3 or 4 years ago where there was around 15 players playing each other best of 5 off scratch(no handicaps)..this has now turned into 2 division of 16 with even more demand..looking like we will run 4 leagues next season.
http://bsisl.leaguerepublic.com/l/fg/1_679269847.html

this all runs at the same time as the local teams league,many player participate in both.

[Shockerz]

we set one up 3 or 4 years ago where there was around 15 players playing each other best of 5 off scratch(no handicaps)..this has now turned into 2 division of 16 with even more demand..looking like we will run 4 leagues next season.
http://bsisl.leaguerepublic.com/l/fg/1_679269847.html

this all runs at the same time as the local teams league,many player participate in both.

I really like the look of this and could keep a lot of the smaller clubs busy on different evenings.

What if people don't complete their games or just don't turn up, do you have any rule around this?

[GeordieDS]

From the neighbours? My Mrs makes me watch it, hence me joining a Monday,Wednesday and Thursday league!

You're obviously a clever lad then Tom

[lesedwards]

Hi guys, I can't believe what I am reading. I had no idea it was getting that bad on the other side of the pond. We are struggling big time up here. I know Terry mentioned some don't want to play because of Floyd winning all the time but our last tournament Floyd and a couple of our best players did not sign up and we still only had 12. Terry and I have tried everything but it seems baseball caps on backwards, ragged t-shirt, ripped jeans, flip flops, Pool Cue and a nine ball table and they are in their glory. We tried a couple divisions but the good players did not think it was fair so they did not play and the lesser players still did not come out. We are running out of ideas.

[lennon11]

we set one up 3 or 4 years ago where there was around 15 players playing each other best of 5 off scratch(no handicaps)..this has now turned into 2 division of 16 with even more demand..looking like we will run 4 leagues next season.
http://bsisl.leaguerepublic.com/l/fg/1_679269847.html

this all runs at the same time as the local teams league,many player participate in both.

No real problem with players not completing or not turning up...its stipulated they won't be allowed to play again.all are keen players who pay an entry fee of £15 per person..which is all payed out in end of season prize money,along with a pound per point end of season high break(as sponsored by a local company) and a end of season play off day,comprising of the top 4 in each league ,where prize money for the winner(s) and day high break is sponsored by the club we play the "finals day" in.all vey well organised and decent amounts of money paid out in prize money....this season the league winner will receive approx £150 plus £119 for current high break,plus around £150 for end of season play offs day winner in each league...not too bad at all.

[lennon11]

I really like the look of this and could keep a lot of the smaller clubs busy on different evenings.

What if people don't complete their games or just don't turn up, do you have any rule around this?

Sorry..my previous reply was meant to reply to the above quote..not my own post...lol..