Increase in my front pause.

[j6uk]

Not you again, here we go, the typists

Chicken!

[Terry Davidson]

j6uk:

I have no idea what in hell you're talking about. Tell me exactly what I 'reversed' and yes I am a Master Coach and I'm very sure I know what I'm talking about. The idea of the rear pause disconnecting the backswing from the delivery originated with first Frank Adamson (a senior and very knowledgeable coach) and then Nic Barrow who is the Head Coach for the IBSF and Nic taught it to me (and it makes sense to me).

So put your thinking cap on and limber up your fingers and start typing and let's see if you can explain why you think I reversed something.

Terry

[j6uk]

So your saying these are nic and Frank's words? and now your using them as your own?

the first is to disconnect the backswing from the delivery so any errors in the straightness of the backswing are sort of canceled out and secondly it helps the player to drive the cue through the cueball better and more consistently.

Terry

[nrage]

So your saying these are nic and Frank's words? and now your using them as your own?

That's called "learning" and "sharing" How about you do some "sharing" so we can do some "learning".. just for fun eh.

[j6uk]

This is turning it replying with x3 questions

So post your thoughts on the purpose of the front and rear pauses as I'm sure everyone would welcome a second opinion, or do you believe the backswing is the same thing as the rear pause?

To make it clear, I'll ask the question for you...'what is the purpose of the front and rear pauses'? We all know the purpose of the backswing is to get the cue to the delivery position and has nothing to do with a rear pause unless you consider the rear pause to be an extension of the backswing and therefore a part of it?

Terry

[j6uk]

look through my posts, I love it

That's called "learning" and "sharing" How about you do some "sharing" so we can do some "learning".. just for fun eh.

[Terry Davidson]

j6uk:

The statement I made on the rear pause is in thesnookergym syllabus and I am licensed to teach that. Nic was a student of Frank Adamson and learned that from him I imagine.

In looking at your posts it's a 'whole lot of feathers and not much CHICKEN'. If I was to guess your occupation I would say either salesman, politician or lawyer. What pearls of wisdom can you impart to all of us to enlighten us on the purpose of both the front pause and rear pause. Explain, (if you can) why players use them.

I suspect you're very young and managed to pick up the skills for snooker at an early age and have never even thought about why you do some things and not others. To members on here attempting to improve an explanation really helps them to understand the reasons behind why I'm recommending they do things in a certain way. I may not always be right, but I'm NEVER wrong! (I was taught that by a Chief Petty Officer when I was a junior hand in the Navy, and then I became an officer so I could say it to youngsters like you who spout a lot of feathers and no chicken).

Terry


Terry

[Tiger800]

throtts:

I have to consider those (lazy) people who don't bother to search for the answer to the question they have (which I've probably answered many times on here, as have other coaches and players).

Actually, it's really astounding to me that the same problems (generally grip, timing, eyes, getting down on the shot) crop up ALL the time and are very common amongst amateur players.

And I agree, for me it's very frustrating to be able to teach good technique but not be able to follow it myself. My problems centre around my grip which I can't seem to keep relaxed when under pressure in a match. In practice here at my facility I play decent (not great but at least decent I'd say). I've been trying to find a grip configuration that will allow me to drive through the cueball without tightening my grip at all, especially on any shots above medium pace.

Last night while having a smoke and a cup of tea (out in the garage of course) I thought of a way to do that. If it leads to consistent success I will post it up here as the initial results were amazing (for me). I punched in 9 out of 10 long blues while screwing back to the baulkline or further. If I used the loop bridge I was able to pot the blue and screw back either into the yellow pocket or near to it on the cushion. It involves configuring the grip in such a way that a player cannot tighten it at all except at the end of the delivery and then using only the top of the forefinger and thumb which is used for the whole backswing and delivery. Now if I can just keep those back 3 fingers off the cue during the delivery I think it will work.

I will post it if it continues to work for me and my next tournament is June 8th on those same lousy tables, so after that I guess.

Terry

Ahhh "The grip!" to me Terry it's the root of all evil , I swear it's the single most important element of this game. The reason I believe this is it's about the only part of the mechanism that utterly controls the path of the cue.
Sorry for the derail of the thread just wanted to throw my opinion in there

[j6uk]

Please let me get this right, you said quote: "I think a rear pause does two things, the first is to disconnect the backswing from the delivery so any errors in the straightness of the backswing are sort of canceled out"
And this is in the snooker gym in particularly the underlined part part?

j6uk:
The statement I made on the rear pause is in thesnookergym syllabus and I am licensed to teach that. Nic was a student of Frank Adamson and learned that from him I imagine.

Terry

[j6uk]

I thought my first post on this thread was reasonable, no?

j6uk:

In looking at your posts it's a 'whole lot of feathers and not much CHICKEN'.

Terry

[throtts]

I like to watch my cue come back on the final back-swing, making sure its on a straight line, then flick my eyes back through to the object ball before the back pause. If the cues not coming back straight or I'm off balance, I'll reset.

Wow, that sounds too busy, for me anyway. I let my chin and right side chest contact point hopefully do that. At this point I am looking at the OB contact point.

[j6uk]

I don't relate to a lot of this but I respect where your coming from, so I'll take it on the nose. I see Iv ruffled your feathers so, sorry for that.

j6uk:

If I was to guess your occupation I would say either salesman, politician or lawyer. What pearls of wisdom can you impart to all of us to enlighten us on the purpose of both the front pause and rear pause. Explain, (if you can) why players use them.

I suspect you're very young and managed to pick up the skills for snooker at an early age and have never even thought about why you do some things and not others. To members on here attempting to improve an explanation really helps them to understand the reasons behind why I'm recommending they do things in a certain way. I may not always be right, but I'm NEVER wrong! (I was taught that by a Chief Petty Officer when I was a junior hand in the Navy, and then I became an officer so I could say it to youngsters like you who spout a lot of feathers and no chicken).

Terry

[j6uk]

Okay so, as far as pauses go (you know this already so this will be sucking eggs). Apart from sighting, to reconfirm that all the components of the shot are as intended and, prepare to time the shot.

So post your thoughts on the purpose of the front and rear pauses as I'm sure everyone would welcome a second opinion, or do you believe the backswing is the same thing as the rear pause?

Terry

[nrage]

I thought my first post on this thread was reasonable, no?

Lets see shall we..

I think a rear pause does two things, the first is to disconnect the backswing from the delivery so any errors in the straightness of the backswing are sort of canceled out and secondly it helps the player to drive the cue through the cueball better and more consistently.

So, first of all Terry shared an opinion.

Lol. Are you serious?
IME and (all the good players I know) the final back swing is acting as a mirror for the delivery.

You rubbished it.

So post your thoughts on the purpose of the front and rear pauses as I'm sure everyone would welcome a second opinion, or do you believe the backswing is the same thing as the rear pause?

To make it clear, I'll ask the question for you...'what is the purpose of the front and rear pauses'? We all know the purpose of the backswing is to get the cue to the delivery position and has nothing to do with a rear pause unless you consider the rear pause to be an extension of the backswing and therefore a part of it?

He asked you for your opinion.

Why you tuning it around? Your The Master right?

You evaded.

The idea of the rear pause disconnecting the backswing from the delivery originated with first Frank Adamson (a senior and very knowledgeable coach) and then Nic Barrow who is the Head Coach for the IBSF and Nic taught it to me (and it makes sense to me).

So put your thinking cap on and limber up your fingers and start typing and let's see if you can explain why you think I reversed something.

He explained where he got the idea, and asked again for your opinion.

So your saying these are nic and Frank's words? and now your using them as your own?

You responded with a slight, and again evaded giving your own opinion.

The statement I made on the rear pause is in thesnookergym syllabus and I am licensed to teach that. Nic was a student of Frank Adamson and learned that from him I imagine.

Terry clarified, yet again.

Please let me get this right, you said quote: "I think a rear pause does two things, the first is to disconnect the backswing from the delivery so any errors in the straightness of the backswing are sort of canceled out"
And this is in the snooker gym in particularly the underlined part part?

You went back to square one, and still haven't told us what you think on the subject.

So, have you acted in a reasonable fashion? I am inclined to say not entirely.

Terry is here day in and day out trying to help people, putting his ideas and knowledge out there, not so some joker can come along and rubbish them, but so people can actually learn something. As far as I am aware he gets little or no compensation for the hours he puts in on this forum.

It's easy to rubbish something, but takes more courage and skill to put your ideas and opinions out there subject to criticism and do so in a way that people can understand and benefit from them.

So far, from you, we've have criticism and little or no substance beyond "catchy" meaningless phrases. I suggest you ask yourself why you're here? Are you trying to help people or are you just killing time? If the latter, then fine but don't abuse the good will of others because you're a poor substitute.

[cyberheater]

So.... (what has he walked into)...

I find that if I use a very slow backswing and then a reasonable pause. This gives me the opportunity to zero in and focus entirely on the shot. To keep everything still. Sometimes it feels almost like a zen experience. At that moment. Time seems to standstill.

I just wish I could remember to do that on every single shot rather then revoking to my old style. It's tough trying to discipline yourself.