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    After a bit of advice...
    Anyone had a custom Ton praram cue made recently ?

    I ordered a blackbone Ton Praram cue, spoke to jack and got a price, but for peace of mind ordered it through Greenblaise in the end. Stu has been very helpful, but while talking to who ever answers the Ton Praram face book page, they seem to be quite uninterested.

    I paid extra for a pro shaft and the cue is costing as much as was quoted for a limited series with pro shaft (not cheap) but when I asked do I get to pick a shaft was told NO! Is that normal? I thought that was the whole point of paying for the pro shaft that you got to choose it for what you like the look of best and was if the higest quality?

  • #2
    Never heard of being able to choose shafts yourself, i think you just pay extra for them to sort through and choose the best available at the time (or wait until one turns up), i could be wrong in Ton's case but that's typical for other makers

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    • #3
      I visited Ton's Workshop this year. Him and his wife were very welcoming and spent 10min with me, but after that they just left me in their shop and Ton went into the workshop and the wife to her desk. They're polite and friendly but not pushy or keen in any way. It's actually quite refreshing to not have the hard sell all the time. They don't bargain or drop prices either. They just appear content with the level of business they have.

      Chooisng shafts sounds like a time consuming endeavour - wouldn't be surprised if he wasn't interested in offering that.

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      • #4
        Ok thanks for the replies guys. I just got that panic feeling for a second. This cue is a real treat for myself, for the price something I can't really justify, but had the need for a something a little special in my life that I can treasure for years to come.

        A friend from work has a Ton Praram limited and it's a beautifully made cue, here's hoping my blackbone looks and plays as nice🤞I was impressed with the quality of the cue which is why ai decided to order my own.

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        • #5
          Originally Posted by redeye View Post
          After a bit of advice...
          Anyone had a custom Ton praram cue made recently ?

          I ordered a blackbone Ton Praram cue, spoke to jack and got a price, but for peace of mind ordered it through Greenblaise in the end. Stu has been very helpful, but while talking to who ever answers the Ton Praram face book page, they seem to be quite uninterested.

          I paid extra for a pro shaft and the cue is costing as much as was quoted for a limited series with pro shaft (not cheap) but when I asked do I get to pick a shaft was told NO! Is that normal? I thought that was the whole point of paying for the pro shaft that you got to choose it for what you like the look of best and was if the higest quality?
          For that kind of price I would try Mike Woolridge cues. Bought a Vintage last year. I would say the finish is better than Ton Param, the splicing the most accurate and even I've seen. I had a Beyond series 3, nice but looking but wasn't a player. I couldn't pick the shaft but the shaft has nice arrows but above all it plays very well. Mike Woolridge and Trevor White (in no particular order) are in my opinion the best out there.

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          • #6
            You're lucky that he agreed to make you a BlackBone. When did you order this initially? He's stopped taking orders for this cue for a period of time due to demand and the effort in finding ebony good enough

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            • #7
              Originally Posted by anish147 View Post
              You're lucky that he agreed to make you a BlackBone. When did you order this initially? He's stopped taking orders for this cue for a period of time due to demand and the effort in finding ebony good enough
              Few weeks ago

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              • #8
                Originally Posted by ken147 View Post
                For that kind of price I would try Mike Woolridge cues. Bought a Vintage last year. I would say the finish is better than Ton Param, the splicing the most accurate and even I've seen. I had a Beyond series 3, nice but looking but wasn't a player. I couldn't pick the shaft but the shaft has nice arrows but above all it plays very well. Mike Woolridge and Trevor White (in no particular order) are in my opinion the best out there.
                Yes they both seem to make exceptional cues

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                • #9
                  He's found other ways to jack of the prices of his cues up, used to be "Beyond" was the high end cue, then he started with this "pro shaft" caper as an extra..which you would think would be as standard on the beyond cue.

                  Ton and his workers make good cues but having a "pro shaft" option on top of the high end cue price is a bit cheesy.

                  Used to have a maple TP Beyond cue which was nice, though at the time i was using an ash cue for a few months before it arrived so it got put on ebay virtually the same day after hitting a few balls with it. Oddly enough one of the bidders on my Trevor White cue is the guy who bought the praram cue.

                  https://i.imgur.com/2tVuhPO.jpg

                  https://i.imgur.com/lDThW03.jpg

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                  • #10
                    Once they get a 'name' the prices rise.
                    Speak up, you've got to speak up against the madness, you've got speak your mind if you dare
                    but don't try to get yourself elected, for if you do you'll have to cut your hair

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                    • #11
                      How much you pay?
                      Which cue you got made?
                      Pro series 2?
                      I just bought this off my friend 5 weeks ago.
                      Nice cue.
                      Beyond ultimate top of range.

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                      • #12
                        Blackbone cue with a pro shaft is what im having made, 25000 is the price from jack, but I'm going through greenblaise.

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                        • #13
                          How much is that uk money?

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                          • #14
                            Originally Posted by tonymicra View Post
                            How much is that uk money?
                            Too Much

                            In any currency

                            can get the best made at a quarter that price in Thailand

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                            • #15
                              Green baize making commission

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