2014 World Championship - Discussion

[The Statman]

So Selby didn't constantly fluke snookers or get lucky kisses to leave nothing through the whole match? Sorry but he did and you're deluded if you think he didn't. Selby's luck was only part of it, you can't win on luck alone but it damn sure helps

I think you're deluding yourself. Yes he did get quite a few lucky kisses (the four snookers in a row was the most spectacular bit!) but particularly on Sunday O'Sullivan had quite a few kisses go his way. Selby was also less fortunate when going into the pack, often landing on nothing.

But at the end of the day this final didn't come down to who played the best, but who played the poorest. While O'Sullivan's best in the match was better than Selby's, his worst was a lot worse than Selby's worst. Numerous easyish pots missed, some very careless safeties (particularly running in-off in a top pocket when all the reds were in baulk).

A match of that length isn't just about skill, isn't just about luck, isn't just about temperament. It's about every factor of snooker rolled into one and overall that favoured Selby.

I get more and more exasperated that many people cannot see that there are lots of players all capable of winning on their day. I expect that is why I rarely post here (or indeed on other internet forums) all that often anymore.

[Dave Walton]

So Selby didn't constantly fluke snookers or get lucky kisses to leave nothing through the whole match? Sorry but he did and you're deluded if you think he didn't. Selby's luck was only part of it, you can't win on luck alone but it damn sure helps

He had a bit of luck, but no more or less than anyone else, your hatred for Selby is shining through here, and if you can't see that you're the one who is deluded!

Lmao no more than anyone else haha that's hilarious, when's the last time you've seen someone f**k up and fluke a snooker 4 times in a single frame? I'm not saying Selby was lucky to win, I'm saying the amount of luck he got played a sizeable part. Its no secret I don't like Selby, or how he plays because its just painful to watch, effective though and he did what he had to do to beat Ronnie which was frustrate him, his luck helped when he made mistakes but once Selby was infront his game improved massively. Even the final frame clearance Selby got lucky, catching the blue when potting the yellow and finished perfect on the green, but again that was overlooked, still potted a good green and finished the clearance well under immense pressure which I give him credit for, some would have bottled it

[scottley]

still potted a good green and finished the clearance well under immense pressure which I give him credit for, some would have bottled it

That must have hurt to say lol, you're right about the 4 flukes, that was very, very fortunate, fair play to him for taking advantage because i'm sure there will be many times you don't get a good run, and lets face it, you need a bit of help against Ronnie.

[Dave Walton]

So Selby didn't constantly fluke snookers or get lucky kisses to leave nothing through the whole match? Sorry but he did and you're deluded if you think he didn't. Selby's luck was only part of it, you can't win on luck alone but it damn sure helps

I think you're deluding yourself. Yes he did get quite a few lucky kisses (the four snookers in a row was the most spectacular bit!) but particularly on Sunday O'Sullivan had quite a few kisses go his way. Selby was also less fortunate when going into the pack, often landing on nothing.

But at the end of the day this final didn't come down to who played the best, but who played the poorest. While O'Sullivan's best in the match was better than Selby's, his worst was a lot worse than Selby's worst. Numerous easyish pots missed, some very careless safeties (particularly running in-off in a top pocket when all the reds were in baulk).

A match of that length isn't just about skill, isn't just about luck, isn't just about temperament. It's about every factor of snooker rolled into one and overall that favoured Selby.

I get more and more exasperated that many people cannot see that there are lots of players all capable of winning on their day. I expect that is why I rarely post here (or indeed on other internet forums) all that often anymore.

Selby had just as much and probably more luck than Ronnie on Sunday and just about all of the luck on Monday. Going into the pack is partly luck and partly hitting the right ball with the right shot, Selby kept hitting the pack wrong which is why he often didn't leave a red on. Ronnie lost his head and I totally agree some of his misses played a massive part in him losing and Selby definitely played better than Ronnie in the final session but not over the match

[j6uk]

ron kept smuthering the black on his breakoff

[j6uk]

ron should of known better and knuckled down on monday

[Dave Walton]

still potted a good green and finished the clearance well under immense pressure which I give him credit for, some would have bottled it

That must have hurt to say lol, you're right about the 4 flukes, that was very, very fortunate, fair play to him for taking advantage because i'm sure there will be many times you don't get a good run, and lets face it, you need a bit of help against Ronnie.

Believe me you'll never know how painfull that was lol. I agree you do need a bit of luck especially against Ronnie but it wasn't a bit Selby got it was loads, I know he can't help getting luck, its highly annoying when someone is carrying it that much though

[Dave Walton]

ron should of known better and knuckled down on monday

Aye can't argue with that at all, Ronnie should not have let himself get frustrated

[j6uk]

Aye can't argue with that at all, Ronnie should not have let himself get frustrated

yeah i'm very surprised, that's why i switch off at 15-12. he didn't do what all the greats have done and changed gear. i know he's got it in him to do so,, he must feel sick. its a huge scare, not sure if he'll ever get over it

[SouthPaw]

ron kept smuthering the black on his breakoff

That played into Selby's hands most times he done that... i thought Ronnie was very inconsistent maybe mother nature is catching up on him after all...

[j6uk]

That played into Selby's hands most times he done that... i thought Ronnie was very inconsistent maybe mother nature is catching up on him after all...

i would of done him on monday

[stavros]

So in what i read you people support Selby because his discpline on the game and nice character deserved world championship.
What about the way he played to take it .Usually as i see him he is far more agressive but this style of playing specifically in the final was dredfull ,it was exactly what O Sullivan said before the tournament ,that the players do not produce just a safety battle so the people and the crowd dont get bored.Exactly that Selby did ,he was hiding all the time and waited for the write moment to collect 40 points ,that is not snooker sorry ,perhaps at a lower level yes ,sometimes in the match yes also ,but in the 80% of the whole session it was no beaty to witness.
And what about if Selby and o Sullivan meet again in the final next year who you will be support then....

[attilahun]

You are right...the problem is the rest of the folks tell us that we are haters....they want us to respect their opinion about the" genius" Selby, but they are not willing to respect our opinion about the meschin way Selby plays the game

Site was down for 24 hours...i entered today and in last 2 pages of this thread Selbys fans talked about 3 or 4 times about us who think Selby used gamesmanship as "haters ".....wtf...you have an opinion, some of us have another......but maybe you find it hard to explain Selbys way of playing snooker in the finak so its easy to attack those who dont like that jester....

[DeanH]

2014 World Championship - Discussion

I think Ferret put the site down for 24hr so this thread can die a death and stop the repetition and to-and-fro.

[itsnoteasy]

I have hunted high and low to find this stat that there was only four seconds between the average shot times in the final, but I can't find a single thing on it, could the folk who posted these stats put up a link for me thanks.