The best way for a proper brake?

[Jungleyes]

Could someone write here the best way to brake with 3 cushions escape to the bulk area..? I manage to do with 2 cushions but in reality the players doing it with 3 cushions...
For 2 cushions I play top right red of the cluster, with some right side and top spin and normal power in order not to scatter red balls everywhere..
Thank you!

[Terry Davidson]

jungleyes:

Since you are from Greece and English is not your first language (probably) just a few corrections. First of all it is 'break' rather than 'brake' and also 'baulk' and not 'bulk'.

To answer your question, on a good table with decent cushions the proper break in a match is to hit the outside red 1/4-ball with right-hand siding and slightly above centre which will swing the cueball near the blue (but between blue and pink) and the cueball should hit the side cushion somewhere just near the baulkline.

You should place the cueball near the brown, say 1in (2.5cm) between them. Ensure you have some siding and the bit of top spin as otherwise you may hit the blue. Do not hit below centre on the cueball as that will also lead to disaster.

On a club table with unknown or maybe bad cushions, place the cueball nearer the yellow and play 1/4-ball on the outside red with a bit of top spin to bring the cueball off top and side cushions and back between yellow and brown. This will avoid hitting the blue if the cushions are not so good and you use the 3-4 cushion break-off shot

Terry

[Jungleyes]

Thank you Terry...Firstly, for the spelling corrections and secondly for the "break" recomendations! Moreover, I think that you are speaking about a real pool table and not the video game which is the case here! Anyway, I believe that the same principles apply for the video game although has disadvantages regarding the physics etc...
P.S. The spelling mistakes are caused by fast typing, nevertheless I always thought listening snooker comentators telling "bulk".
P.S. 2 I should already know those mispelling since I am a graduate of 2 British Universities!!!

[Luke Hooper]

normally, i play off the third red and split the reds everywhere...

(im not saying for a second what Terry is saying is wrong) but i find that playin off the last red is a very negative break and personally find if you play with the white nearish the brown (around 1.5 inch away) and play off the third red in the pack with just a TRACE of right hand side (or left if you break from the left) you will get exactly the same desired effect and if you judge pace the natural angle leaves it nicely tucked up behind the green if you break from the right and yellow if you break from the left. It scatters the reds all over and opens them out so that there is no easy return to baulk and very very rarely leaves a pot on i find - dont get me wrong it takes a lot of practice to get right but once you master it, it can put your opponent in a lot of trouble and one mistake can leave you in, straight away and you can begin the frame with a potential frame winning break!

i think jimmy white was the original played to play off the third red, he doesnt do it very often anymore but that may be due to the fact he doesnt like to take the risk..

make sure you practice it before you do it in a match, its VERY easy to pot the white off the break if you hit it too hard and i wouldnt recommend you do it on a new table that your not used to lol

im sure Terry will tell me off for recommending this, it all depends on how aggressive you are lol

[Terry Davidson]

Luke...you did the same thing I did. This was for the online WSC 09 or whatever the computer game is.

However, as long as your 3rd red up doesn't tie up the black and you always get back to baulk with it, never hitting the blue or jawing the while on the top pocket then there's nothing wrong with it.

Too risky for me though as I usually catch the jaws and leave my opponent in for a big break.

Also, ask yourself how come no pros (except Jimmy maybe) use this break on their tables. Could be the speed and strong nap they have will give them a rattle or an in-ff in the top pocket

Terry

[Jungleyes]

jungleyes:

Since you are from Greece and English is not your first language (probably) just a few corrections. First of all it is 'break' rather than 'brake' and also 'baulk' and not 'bulk'.

To answer your question, on a good table with decent cushions the proper break in a match is to hit the outside red 1/4-ball with right-hand siding and slightly above centre which will swing the cueball near the blue (but between blue and pink) and the cueball should hit the side cushion somewhere just near the baulkline.

You should place the cueball near the brown, say 1in (2.5cm) between them. Ensure you have some siding and the bit of top spin as otherwise you may hit the blue. Do not hit below centre on the cueball as that will also lead to disaster.

On a club table with unknown or maybe bad cushions, place the cueball nearer the yellow and play 1/4-ball on the outside red with a bit of top spin to bring the cueball off top and side cushions and back between yellow and brown. This will avoid hitting the blue if the cushions are not so good and you use the 3-4 cushion break-off shot

Terry

I am mostly playing as Terry suggested hitting the top right red 1/4 kicking away only 2 red from the cluster...this is a more safe approach in break and starting a frame...On the other hand, Luke's way is too far aggressive and it doesn't seem many players break this way apart form times that regarding the opponent they want to play aggressive/risky and fast frames...One more question please..: when you mean by better tables within the game what tables you mean ... the more the frames the better the tables??? I don't get it...The only thing that I have noticed is that when you qualify in some tournaments and you are playing the best of 3 frames or 5, respectively, in comparison with the 1 frame games the balls are more shining and the graphics seem to be better..

[Terry Davidson]

jungle:

Remember, I'm talking about the real world as I don't play computer games (which I guess makes me a dinosaur in your eyes).

I would rather hit real balls with a real cue on a real table as my butt gets numb when I'm on the computer too long.

Terry

[Luke Hooper]

haha i didnt realise this was WSC...

i thought this was real life.. but yes i dont always break from the third red, only if i have a decent lead and feel confident enough to put someone in trouble straight away...lol