looking for a decent cue

[SteveDay]

Interesting points mate, but can't the idiots order 60" cues ?

Thailand 1 piece cues only have 48" shafts which are lengthened while putting the splicing on, which would show the cue had been lengthened rather than a longer 1 piece, and there wouldn't be much strength in the cue as the only thing holding the cue together would be the splicing, which is quite thin.

[jrc750]

Thailand 1 piece cues only have 48" shafts which are lengthened while putting the splicing on, which would show the cue had been lengthened rather than a longer 1 piece, and there wouldn't be much strength in the cue as the only thing holding the cue together would be the splicing, which is quite thin.

Is this gospel ???

[SteveDay]

It's what I've been told and comfirmed via looking into it. As for whether it's gospel one could ask if there is there is such a thing as an absolute truth. Certainly not going to be much found on internet forums but the information comes from and was confirmed by people that to me would offer the highest level of probability of the statement. If anyone has a rebuttal then I'm always interested to hear. I maybe should have written "As far as I and those I spoke to know...", sorry.

[crankie]

I am in no way suggesting that 57" - 58" is not the best length for a standard cue, I'm sure this is pretty average for most guys, what I don't get is why a few inches either way would effectively ruin a cue, if flex was an issue then surly a stiffer shaft would compensate somewhat on a longer cue ?

I notice how all the comments here are from players and not the cue makers themselves ? If one of you guys could comment with a sensible reason then fair enough, but I'm pretty sure that parris cues are the most successful UK cue making business and if they are willing to advertise that they can make a cue to 63" then I would guess they are the guys I will go with ( no offence intended)

As for whether I have asked any cue makers here if they could have made of extended my cue, I only asked 3 as otherwise I would have been wasting my time and there time, most were ruled out by the waiting time, raymo I read is not a custom order maker,
And the other dozen or so are not forum members from what I know ?

First reply was from sanman- quick and well priced, but not in the UK so couldn't see any ash...
Secondly Andy Travis - who offered to make me a 60" cue but the turnaround put me off (sorry Andy) as I was worried something unsettled could bend ?
Thirdly - Jason owen - who I'm guessing is to busy as he still has not replied to my pm !
Finally- Crispian jones- who offered to make a cue at 60" but on further emails suggested I extend my own cue...
After this there was no need to pm anyone else and waist time.....

[jrc750]

It's what I've been told and comfirmed via looking into it. As for whether it's gospel one could ask if there is there is such a thing as an absolute truth. Certainly not going to be much found on internet forums but the information comes from and was confirmed by people that to me would offer the highest level of probability of the statement. If anyone has a rebuttal then I'm always interested to hear. I maybe should have written "As far as I and those I spoke to know...", sorry.

Well i cannot believe they are unable to source full length shafts, just doesn't make any sense

[crispian jones]

Well i cannot believe they are unable to source full length shafts, just doesn't make any sense

I've probably spliced up between 35 and 40 Thai cues and each one of those has had an extended piece of ash, probably not quite as short as
48" but definatly say 51/52" ash !
If you imagine extending any cue, it would start with a spigott joint in the end then resplicing over it, this is how
My supply is done anyway ? And this is then spliced over with the ebony, when you drill the butt out for weighting then
This extended piece is removed just like any handmade cue and replaced with a dowel !
However this sounds, its not a bad thing, it does not affect the cue in any way, its just the way they do it I suppose ?

Probably a few kitchen tables floating around the bottom of half your cues :-)

[jrc750]

Well it obviously doesn't affect the way the cues play, in fact my best (one piece) playing cues have been from GBL (Thai made) plus another cue i shouldn't really mention, as it turns out it too is from Thailand altho not sold as such

[crispian jones]

Well it obviously doesn't affect the way the cues play, in fact my best (one piece) playing cues have been from GBL (Thai made) plus another cue i shouldn't really mention, as it turns out it too is from Thailand altho not sold as such

Ha ha you been had then have you ? I've got two shafts aside at home ready to make myself a break cue and playing
Cue, but it is something aside for a while, I'm playing myself with one of my Thai cues just now and I have to say it a cracker!
In fact the reason I couldn't bring myself to sell it was it is just to bloody nice a cue to sell for £240 !

[SteveDay]

Well i cannot believe they are unable to source full length shafts, just doesn't make any sense

I guess it's a matter of board length and what's economical. I suppose if anyone wanted to order enough they could get anything made up and shipped in but as it is they get 48"

[crispian jones]

One of the first handmade cues I made was for Graham hardy (snooker warrior) and if I'm correct that cue was 60" long, he knocked
In a break of 133 within weeks of receiving the cue :-)

[sanman]

Thailand 1 piece cues only have 48" shafts which are lengthened while putting the splicing on, which would show the cue had been lengthened rather than a longer 1 piece, and there wouldn't be much strength in the cue as the only thing holding the cue together would be the splicing, which is quite thin.

Please explain how a simple plain butt cue with 4 splices is made with a 48 inch ash lenght

[crispian jones]

the same way you would extend any cue

[les147]

looking for a decent cue

I have at least seven 60" high end cues in my collection! including parris, dave coutts, hunt and Osborne & hunt and o'byrne. they all play superb and all have hand made cases by Crispian and Graham Hardy.

[crispian jones]

What are you saying les ? you nuts about cues or you have monkey arms ha ha !

[sanman]

the same way you would extend any cue

2 or 3 inches I would agree. Approximately 10 inches extending with just an 18 inch splice that I would disagree with. Point I am making us its not possible to extend a 48 inch ash shaft to 58 inches with 4 splices unless you cut the splice wood in special ways but with the typical wedge shape splices I dont see how this is possible without introducing serious structural faults especially around the 48 inch mark