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  • #1

    Side Spin... Need Help!!!

    Hi all,

    as some of you know, im new to the game, and have only been playing since november, but as ive been pracitising alot, and have joined a local club, ive been trying to work on my positioning at present.

    I can back spin and use top spin fine, (on good club tables), but for some reason, side spin confuses and mystifies me. Everytime i try and play it, i always miss the shot ...

    Some of my friends say that i should try applying side spin by twisting the cue, but i thought this was a big no no, because you should always play with a straight cue action...

    So i was wondering, how do you play side? do you need to readjust the angle of the pot? and what are the most effective and beneifical ways to practice in this area of the game, to make my side spin attributes sufficient?

    Thanks guys!
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    Hi Mate,

    Side spin! Using side-spin deflects the cue ball on contact with tip. For example, if you use right handside the call ball goes to to the left! and of course visa-versa!

    So you have to allow for this deflection with your aiming! This you should practice so you get a feel for it! And remember the greater the distance between cue ball and objectball the less you have to allow for. As the cue ball will eventually come back to the true line of aim!

    I hope this helps,

    Bry
    Last edited by Strickimicki; 7 April 2010, 05:54 PM. Reason: wrote right instead of left!
    Quote : It took me eight hours a day for 16 years to become an overnight sensation! Cliff Thorburn

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    • #3
      Side is one of the hardest aspects of the game to play let alone master . There has been some threads regarding this recently

      Your friends are either winding you up , or talking crap , you should never twist the cue , just cue as normal smooth and straight and hit through the cue ball .

      You miss the shot because side throws the white , If you are playing a cut with running side it will throw the object ball wider so you would have to aim thicker on the pot , and vice versa for check side .

      Its all practice and trial and error . start off using a small amout of side until you get used to the throw , once you think you,ve got the hang of it , you can increase it slightly

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      • #4
        Originally Posted by Strickimicki View Post
        Hi Mate,

        Side spin! Using side-spin deflects the cue ball on contact with tip. For example, if you use right handside the call ball goes to to the left! and of course visa-versa!

        So you have to allow for this deflection with your aiming! This you should practice so you get a feel for it! And remember the greater the distance between cue ball and objectball the less you have to allow for. As the cue ball will eventually come back to the true line of aim!

        I hope this helps,

        Bry
        Well said strikimicki great explanation!! i would just like to add, many begginers believe that to maximise side they need to contact the furthest point of the cue ball away from centre to achieve this,(1 of the reasons for miscueing) its not the case , a slight fraction off centre any direction and side is applied!!Try not to go too much across the cueball and surely you will achieve the same result.....And as far as it goes as regards to twisting the cue on a shot requiring sidespin, its a technique i apply myself , and which works for me!! but as you are a begginer i would suggest, try and stick with the vertical line of the cueball first, and gradually as improvement is made sidespin , reverside screw shots etc.. are a natural progression and will come eventually . good luck with your game and most importantly ENJOY!!!:snooker:
        I can see the table, but lost my ....ive lost my balls

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        • #5
          This twisting of the cue is a fatal mistake! If you can still hit the ball straight doing it then that wonders me!

          If we think about the actual twisting of the cue, what does this do to create more or less spin? Nothing what so ever! So don't do it!!!!!

          Unless like heera2009, you still get on very well with it?
          Quote : It took me eight hours a day for 16 years to become an overnight sensation! Cliff Thorburn

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          • #6
            Originally Posted by Strickimicki View Post
            This twisting of the cue is a fatal mistake! If you can still hit the ball straight doing it then that wonders me!

            more or less spin? Nothing what so ever! So don't do it!!!!!

            Unless like heera2009, you still get on very well with it?
            Somehow i can manage to generate phenomenol side spin, with minimum amount of backswing!!! its proberbly not a text book technique , but works good with me... need a very loose grip though.
            I can see the table, but lost my ....ive lost my balls

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            • #7
              If i were you chris i would forget about side for a while cos it will only upset your game !
              How long have you been playing ? and at what level are you at ?
              Not played for 3 years and itching for a game....11-3-2017.

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              • #8
                Originally Posted by warren132 View Post
                If i were you chris i would forget about side for a while cos it will only upset your game !
                How long have you been playing ? and at what level are you at ?
                I agree with warren, playing with side is the most advance part of the game, as you have only been playing since november I'm sure that there are many other parts of your game that you should be working on that would bring you more rewards. By all means practice this on your own but I wouldn't use it in a game, given your current level. No disrespect intended. :snooker:

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                • #9
                  Ive been playing since the start of November 09.. So around 6 months! But i only played for fun with mates for around 2-3 hours a week, and then my girlfriends cousin plays for a local club, and plays for Northern Ireland's International billiards team. So i went to play a few frames with him, and he said i was pretty good for a beginner, and Im joining his club this week, so hoping to stick in around 6-7 hours practising by myself, starting with the beginners stuff etc, so i can improve my game gradually, because im really interested in the sport and would love to be able to really 'up' my game and play hopefully club or international level!

                  Im not very good, only hitting rare 30 - 40 breaks, but by learning stuff on the forum e.g. side spin etc, i hope ill improve!

                  Thanks with all the advice so far guys btw , keep it coming

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                  • #10
                    Hi chris, For someone who's has only been play since november, You seem to be pretty good. 30 and 40 breaks is a good standard given the short time you,ve played the game. Maybe will see you on the box soon. Good luck mate. PS: side will come to you in time, you kinda have to feel it, there are so my factors involved.:snooker:

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                    • #11
                      Chris Patterson

                      First of all, learn to play well without side. Walk before you can run.

                      It seems as though your mates are taking the p..s.. Just keep practising.
                      :snooker:
                      Last edited by Acrowot; 7 April 2010, 09:42 PM. Reason: mistake (typos)

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                      • #12
                        Lol thanks for the complement, but them breaks are quite rare, only make a break in the 30-40 range maybe once a week, but since ive started playing, havent seen an improvment in my game, but i think this is cause i play with friends, rather than practising, so hopefully when i get my membership, and with loads of practice and dedication, hopefully ill see a better improvment

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                        • #13
                          imo playing with side is simple its all about ur cue action most ppl stun the ball when they play with side which makes it swerve u need a gd solid clean stroke just like when u play a plane ball shot
                          tha what!

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                          • #14
                            Yep. Ian's correct. If you have a good cue action, side is alot less mythical.

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                            • #15
                              Originally Posted by JayDee View Post
                              Yep. Ian's correct. If you have a good cue action, side is alot less mythical.
                              spank u very much hehe i take much pride in my cue action as i get alot of comments about it lol
                              Last edited by ian046; 8 April 2010, 03:51 AM.
                              tha what!

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