Peradon Cue with a Knot?

[MikeWooldridge]

i recently attempted to 'hijack' some ash destined for peradon but the supplier refused to give in to me

they told me their north american producer had introduced new quality controls specifically for the demands of snooker cue manufacture. straight grain, clean, etc., etc..

yes, peradon are well established, but ash quality is, and has been, a constant issue. it's even a case that the factory guys were 'excited' and looking forward to getting this new 'super' ash stock.

but, i found out direct from the horse mouth a couple of days ago, that it's "back to the drawing board" and they were largely disappointed with what they got. so i'm very happy i did not succeed in getting some of that stock.

get in! for once the wooldridge charm failed, but it turned all turned out good

every single cue maker has problems finding really nice ash. some of us try harder than others (i certainly do, and i know this for a fact cos i'm lucky enough to get all the other makers cues here for various mods, and you should see some of the sh*t i have to work on ). i can tell you for sure that i sleep very easy with the quality i send out.

but any blemishes you find are really not the makers fault, more a case of that's all they can get. or the best they have at any particular time.

the small 'knot' edge in your cue is fine. ignore it. it's naturally occurring and largely unavoidable when producing large numbers of cues. it won't affect the way your cue plays.

and think of it like this - if your cue gets stolen you will recognise it easily cos it's the only one with a sh*tty knot in it

[nullsys]

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but any blemishes you find are really not the makers fault, more a case of that's all they can get. or the best they have at any particular time.

the small 'knot' edge in your cue is fine. ignore it. it's naturally occurring and largely unavoidable when producing large numbers of cues. it won't affect the way your cue plays.

and think of it like this - if your cue gets stolen you will recognise it easily cos it's the only one with a sh*tty knot in it

Hi Mike,
Thanks for that. It's really put my mind at ease. Knowing it's common and can't be helped makes it feel like I'm not getting ripped off at least!

Thanks again everyone

[MikeWooldridge]

you're definitely not getting ripped off mate. it's luck of the draw.

just accept it and learn to love it. cos it's yours

[DandyA]

just accept it and learn to love it. cos it's yours

that is a really nice comment Mike as was your posting above that ... I'm sure you don't need my praise but it is really good to hear a fine cuemaker being so genuine and honest ...

[matt926_uk]

your lucky, my peradon has 6 knots in it!
I couldn't care less though, it was only £70

[renniwevarb]

Don't worry about it, these little things give character to your cue!

[vmax4steve]

the small 'knot' edge in your cue is fine. ignore it. it's naturally occurring and largely unavoidable when producing large numbers of cues. it won't affect the way your cue plays.

Just a question Mike, would a 'knot edge' like this if it was about 6 inches from the tip be a weak spot that could be liable to break over time or would the knot have to be deeper into the wood ?

[Particle Physics]

Just a question Mike, would a 'knot edge' like this if it was about 6 inches from the tip be a weak spot that could be liable to break over time or would the knot have to be deeper into the wood ?

Good point. Knots contain different amounts of oil and water to the rest of the wood, and they split and crack over time. I certainly couldn't imagine Parris knocking out cues with knots.

[Particle Physics]

My god some of you have lofty expectations. My MW cue which I paid >£600 for has inperfections, the Glover cue I bought from Jason, has inperfections. These are the top price/quality makers... if you expect better from a cue that's 1/2 or 1/4 the cost you're having a laugh. Do they matter? No, they don't. If things like this matter to you more than how the cue plays, then that's pretty sad really.

Really? The ash on my Phoenix is as close to perfect as anything can be and Parris pretty much guarantees perfection on his Ultimate, so everything else in between should be free of major blemishes. Cue makers of note should simply bin shafts with imperfections IMO, they're charging enough. No cue maker should be using 100% of the stock he receives anyway, it's long been held that much has to be binned or shifted elsewhere, particularly maple. I've seen snooker cues in Lidl with imperfections in the shaft; no problem, they're £20. Should a ROS replica have double the amount of knots as a Peradon because it only costs half as much? Strange, because the ROS replicas I've seen don't have blemishes in the shaft. Not the greatest ash I'll admit, but knots, come on, I wouldn't put up with knots in my oak furniture, nevermind something as important as a cue.

[Gerry Armstrong]

Parris doesn't guarantee perfection in Ultimates. None of the ones I've had or seen were perfect, one in particular was far from perfect.

[nullsys]

Hi all,
I would just like to give you an update.
In Peradon's defence, they emailed me today.
After showing them the picture of the cue, they have freely replaced my cue for me!

I couldn't ask more than that at all, that's fantastic customer service.
These things happen, and they are really nice about it.

Being as it is, I'm only 10 minutes away from the "factory", so I might pick up my new cue tomorrow.

Thanks again everyone for putting my mind at ease and helping with your experiences. I hope this hasn't put you off Peradon. They are great to talk to and really helpful.

Of course, I think this is a special case because they know the store I bought it from are terrible and refusing to help.

[denja]

Really? The ash on my Phoenix is as close to perfect as anything can be and Parris pretty much guarantees perfection on his Ultimate, so everything else in between should be free of major blemishes. Cue makers of note should simply bin shafts with imperfections IMO, they're charging enough. No cue maker should be using 100% of the stock he receives anyway, it's long been held that much has to be binned or shifted elsewhere, particularly maple. I've seen snooker cues in Lidl with imperfections in the shaft; no problem, they're £20. Should a ROS replica have double the amount of knots as a Peradon because it only costs half as much? Strange, because the ROS replicas I've seen don't have blemishes in the shaft. Not the greatest ash I'll admit, but knots, come on, I wouldn't put up with knots in my oak furniture, nevermind something as important as a cue.

I have a Phoenix Mark Williams and a Craftsman Handmade by Dave Brown like yours both are as near perfect as you can get Ok ! knots and other marks are cosmetic but when I spend my cash I expect a decent looking cue, lets face it a car can have lots of scratches and dents that dont affect its performance but would you buy it ?

[sharkster63]

Good Day, Glad you got a replacement, I purchased a Dunn's cue with maple shaft, got it at 120 GBP, low end. It plays excellently but the knot was always facing up because I hold my cue with the flat down, it was very visible and totally distracting, if I played with butt flat up it would not have been a problem. Great cue to have in the rack for visitors. I honestly think that before it was shipped to me in Canada it was inspected and because of the price, it was shipped. No problems at that price, even though I was very dissapointed at first, I know you only get what you pay for.
Cheers,
Rolly C. sends

[denja]

Hi all,
I would just like to give you an update.
In Peradon's defence, they emailed me today.
After showing them the picture of the cue, they have freely replaced my cue for me!

I couldn't ask more than that at all, that's fantastic customer service.
These things happen, and they are really nice about it.

Being as it is, I'm only 10 minutes away from the "factory", so I might pick up my new cue tomorrow.

Thanks again everyone for putting my mind at ease and helping with your experiences. I hope this hasn't put you off Peradon. They are great to talk to and really helpful.

Of course, I think this is a special case because they know the store I bought it from are terrible and refusing to help.

Glad you got a good result snooker is a hard enough game as it is, and you have got to be happy with your cue.

[Terry Davidson]

sharkster:

You should have contacted me first. I still have some very nice 3/4-butt cues with extensions here going for a good price, like a JP Classic below $400 and an Exquisite cue for $500 or at the lower end a couple at $300 or less

As far as I can remember, there are no knots either!

Terry