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[DeanH]

Anyone seen a snooker forum ?

nope, do you know of one I can join?

[jb134]

Who should get the wealth then?, just the top one percent? Feck the little people who's backs are broken making it, how dare they want to share in the profit they helped create, they should doff their caps know their place and be thankful for the pittance they are given. I don't know what has become of us, I really don't ,I'm all right jack seems to be the order of the day, what happened to fairness, if a company or individual makes a huge profit surely they have a duty to share a bit of it with the people who made it for them, but no ,let's trawl round the world looking for the next countries workforce to exploit, then tell us it's your own fault you should have just accepted the pittance ,see you have priced yourself out of a job, NO NO NO I haven't, you greedy git want it all and will stop at nothing to keep it, if this is not the case why is Nisan in the northeast making the biggest profits for that company yet paying very good wages, see it can be done. Most benefits go to pensioners the next biggest is the working poor, our government has to subsidies wages because they are below the poverty line, how is that wanting too much, make companies pay fair wages, it benefits everyone, more money in their back pocket, they will spend more in the shops creating employment in turn producing more tax revenue for the government it's win win all round, pay a pittance no one spends no jobs created no tax revenue, massive benefit bill, it's obvious isn't it? But no just keep them in their place ,keep grinding them down and keep the money while not paying the taxes they owe, that's the way to do it, god help us all.
I am old enough to remember the Tories raping Scotland in Seventies and Eighties(only just mind) I will never forget Thatcher say she believed in the trickle down effect of business, let the rich make fortunes and the money will trickle down to the workers, Cameron and his eton bulingdon club pals believe the same, how's that worked out for ya Dave and Maggie? As I've not seen much trickling, but I still see massive wages for your city pals , who caused this mess, and huge payouts for failure, now that would be the sack for a worker, oops sorry I seem it have lost you 250 million this year, never mind, have a 5 million bonus as I thought you were going to lose me more so you have done well, could you see that happening to us? Who am I most disappointed with ? US, we have let these people convince us that fighting for fair working practices is wrong, while shafting us left right and centre, look at the NHS pay increases, no increase if you're on incremental pay, now what are these people meant to do? Roll over for a fifth year, or stand and fight, it won't be the later because the public have been brainwashed into thinking this is wrong, instead of supporting them for a fair wage we will turn our backs, because I'm all right jack feck you.

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[itsnoteasy]

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Lowest form of an answer JB I expected better from you.

[bigandyg]

Lowest form of an answer JB I expected better from you.

Patience, he will.

[jb134]

Lowest form of an answer JB I expected better from you.

There's not much worth replying to. I was brought up in a corrupt labour burgh and have heard this tripe all my life. Had Scottish industry been profitable, it would still be in existence. Simple as that. I notice Labour/Unions have been at it again in Grangemouth.

Have you seen Arthur Scargills house? Do you know what pension he is on? All off the backs of the working man. Some of the bravest men I ever knew were miners.

The people who own and run companies deserve more than those who work, it's as simple as that. I have already stated my belief that limited company structure requires to be changed. I believe this would reduce profits to a reasonable level but if you can't make, relatively, a lot of money, why run a business?

If the people who run businesses cease to do so, what happens to the workers? Jeremy Kyle, that's what.

I completely agree with your example of Nissan, which is not hampered by shareholders, limited company structure etc and can effectively profit share via salary but it still aye the top guys more than the sweeper uppers and deservedly so.

As for the NHS, don't get me started.

Until we start paying MPs proper wages, this country has no chance. If Scotland vote for independence, no-one has any chance. There you go, dip your bread into that!

[itsnoteasy]

Patience, he will.

Lol I hope so, because he's a better poster than that, even if we don't agree( no harm in that) I have always liked his posts.

[itsnoteasy]

I agree with a lot of that JB, but my answer to your points are, if where you were brought up was corrupt ,it's the people not the ideas that are wrong, are they all saints in business? Are all bosses just doing their best for their workers, I have my doubts.
Of course you have to make money if you run a business , you have every right to make a bloody vast fortune, but I just think you have a duty to share some of it around,I don't think it's right that government subsidises wages in the private sector through benefits, after all no workers no product, I don't believe you should go to a third world country and exploit their workers then when prices rise there move on and exploit the next one, this will end in total failure, as you must run out of places to exploit eventually. But I'm no lefty unionist and I can remember them bringing this country to it's knees with demarcation, and wild cat strikes it was awful,they went to far but to say look at Scargill house, I'm not having that, have you seen Cameron's his dad's pile ,he made his money and hid it offshore to avoid tax , Cameron himself had to pay money back for fiddling his expenses yet he lectures those less fortunate than him on how they should behave, i find this hard to take. By the way I have no time for Scargill or his right hand man Mick Macgachie,
I would add I'm from a mining community and it was tough times.

[ADR147]

I once visited Tony Benns mansion in holland park, he lived pretty well for a famous socialist, it should also be noted that he got rid of his title but not the inheritance which will now be passed on to his sons without paying any tax!

In all seriousness I rather liked the guy he was a believer rather than the self centred bunch we have today and whatever your political bent we were better off with the hestletines and benns of this world than with the camerons and the milibands.

[Thinslice]

thought this was about cues? has for politics show me a poor politician .

[ADR147]

thought this was about cues? has for politics show me a poor politician .

all threads eventually end up on ronnie o'sullivan this one just taking the long way round!

[Byrom]

all threads eventually end up on ronnie o'sullivan this one just taking the long way round!

so what you saying Ronnie is better than Hendry?

nope - not even funny - I know - this is what too much single malt does to me - i am off to bed.

[jb134]

I agree with a lot of that JB, but my answer to your points are, if where you were brought up was corrupt ,it's the people not the ideas that are wrong, are they all saints in business? Are all bosses just doing their best for their workers, I have my doubts.
Of course you have to make money if you run a business , you have every right to make a bloody vast fortune, but I just think you have a duty to share some of it around,I don't think it's right that government subsidises wages in the private sector through benefits, after all no workers no product, I don't believe you should go to a third world country and exploit their workers then when prices rise there move on and exploit the next one, this will end in total failure, as you must run out of places to exploit eventually. But I'm no lefty unionist and I can remember them bringing this country to it's knees with demarcation, and wild cat strikes it was awful,they went to far but to say look at Scargill house, I'm not having that, have you seen Cameron's his dad's pile ,he made his money and hid it offshore to avoid tax , Cameron himself had to pay money back for fiddling his expenses yet he lectures those less fortunate than him on how they should behave, i find this hard to take. By the way I have no time for Scargill or his right hand man Mick Macgachie,
I would add I'm from a mining community and it was tough times.

My point re Scargills house was that he accumulated his wealth and had residences paid for him by the NUM whilst posing as a man of the people. Ie as the man who ran the union, he expected more than the individual miners he represented, what's the difference between that and the pit owner expecting more than the miners?

The point being it is human nature to strive for more, yes to share within reason, but primarily to look after number 1.

Three or four hundred years ago Scotland was a third world country that got exploited for its land, cheap labour, natural resources and anything else that could be stripped. First by the clan chiefs, then by the Scottish aristocracy, then by landowners. The "trickle down" effect from that put Scotland where it was 100 years ago, at the front of world education and in the vanguard of the industrial revolution.

I'm trying to reply to your points but am doing this on my phone. Once you run out of cheap labour you go back to where you started, which is now cheap again, it's called "reshoring" and it's happening as we speak.

As it happens, I agree that we don't need to agree, which is probably just as well ;-)

[jb134]

I once visited Tony Benns mansion in holland park, he lived pretty well for a famous socialist, it should also be noted that he got rid of his title but not the inheritance which will now be passed on to his sons without paying any tax!

In all seriousness I rather liked the guy he was a believer rather than the self centred bunch we have today and whatever your political bent we were better off with the hestletines and benns of this world than with the camerons and the milibands.

Yes Benn and Heseltine, two Jimmy Whites of the political world.

[Byrom]

Yes Benn and Heseltine, two Jimmy Whites of the political world.

you might not have to put up with English politicians for long if you tick the right box - some others did it a much harder way

[itsnoteasy]

My point re Scargills house was that he accumulated his wealth and had residences paid for him by the NUM whilst posing as a man of the people. Ie as the man who ran the union, he expected more than the individual miners he represented, what's the difference between that and the pit owner expecting more than the miners?

The point being it is human nature to strive for more, yes to share within reason, but primarily to look after number 1.

Three or four hundred years ago Scotland was a third world country that got exploited for its land, cheap labour, natural resources and anything else that could be stripped. First by the clan chiefs, then by the Scottish aristocracy, then by landowners. The "trickle down" effect from that put Scotland where it was 100 years ago, at the front of world education and in the vanguard of the industrial revolution.

I'm trying to reply to your points but am doing this on my phone. Once you run out of cheap labour you go back to where you started, which is now cheap again, it's called "reshoring" and it's happening as we speak.

As it happens, I agree that we don't need to agree, which is probably just as well ;-)

I won't use Scargill as a role model as he was politically motivated not just working for his members , but the difference between a union leader who gets very well paid and a pit owner who also gets very well paid is one is doing it(or should be) for the benefit of the many, the other is doing it for the benefit of himself or the few around him. Again I am in no way saying making money is wrong or that everyone should get the same, just that people should get a fair share for what they do, I don't think exploiting anyone is the right thing to do.