Top service from Craftsman cues in Leeds

[jrc750]

.....IMHO THATS NOT GREAT SERVICE.

Yes but you were asking them to do something which is dodgy at best and may even be illegal - so you cant really complain about that can you.

[khizzy]

Yes but you were asking them to do something which is dodgy at best and may even be illegal - so you cant really complain about that can you.

i agree but he didnt have to tell me to go to others who offer such services and not to bother him again,i feel thats a bit rude for someone trying to break into the big league of cuemakers,it could have been put in a better and polite way.

[khizzy]

Yes but you were asking them to do something which is dodgy at best and may even be illegal - so you cant really complain about that can you.

its not illegal for him,if at all any problems occur they will at import in India not in the UK,which i suppose is my problem to deal with.

[old school]

I agree with jrc.What you asked them to do was to aid a possible deception.Their reputation could have been called into question and whether or not it becomes your problem is not the issue.It was good service until you stepped over the line.

[khizzy]

I agree with jrc.What you asked them to do was to aid a possible deception.Their reputation could have been called into question and whether or not it becomes your problem is not the issue.It was good service until you stepped over the line.

over the line?

my friend 80% of the cues made in uk are exported and ALL of them are sent with a reduced invoice its understood,i was ok with him refusing to do so and cancelling the order.just a notification to friends living outside UK,you will not get a reduced invoice from craftsman.

[hatterboard]

i would suggest there aint a trader anywhere that aint got 100 % positive feedback. ive been to see dave an simon loads of times, sure ive had problems, but always been sorted out.
i would also be surprised if they had ambitions (as yer put it) to break into the "elite", i think they are more than happy making a very good product at a hugely affordable price. a lot of people use them, they do ok, an maybe yer caught someone on a bad day, it happens.

[jb134]

over the line?

my friend 80% of the cues made in uk are exported and ALL of them are sent with a reduced invoice its understood,i was ok with him refusing to do so and cancelling the order.just a notification to friends living outside UK,you will not get a reduced invoice from craftsman.

Basically mate you are a fraudster. Now it's only one of those little frauds that nobody cares about and there is no vicitm of but its a fraud nonetheless. Lets hope the tax you save wouldn't be used to buy vital medicine for a sick child.

Good luck with your continued unethical (I see you are a doctor, hopefully not of medicine) activities and well done to craftsman for not dealing with you.

[khizzy]

Basically mate you are a fraudster. Now it's only one of those little frauds that nobody cares about and there is no vicitm of but its a fraud nonetheless. Lets hope the tax you save wouldn't be used to buy vital medicine for a sick child.

Good luck with your continued unethical (I see you are a doctor, hopefully not of medicine) activities and well done to craftsman for not dealing with you.

call me whatever you want.i am a doctor of medicine and I DO NOT CARE WHAT YOU THINK.

it was just to inform people outside UK that craftsman dont do a reduced invoice and how rude he was to me.THATS IT.

[CueAntW147]

Well as the old saying goes " you can't please all of the people all of the time "

and the other that springs to mind is " there's always two sides to a story "

No doubt we've all had good, bad or indifferent experiences at some point in our lives & we can only talk & learn from these experiences.

That said there has nothing been mentioned from my point of view that would put me off using Craftsman and it seems all was well in this case until the reduced invoice was requested, but everyone is entitled to there own opinion.

Maybe another example though of how difficult international dealings can sometimes be for buyers & sellers to add to the other's we've seen on here lately.

[jb134]

I have to say not being a fraudster or a doctor with questionable ethics, I have to say I'd still use craftsman too. I just hope having to spend time dealing with nuisances doesn't force prices up.

[hotpot]

I have to say not being a fraudster or a doctor with questionable ethics, I have to say I'd still use craftsman too. I just hope having to spend time dealing with nuisances doesn't force prices up.

Not that i want to get involve but i think you have slightly over reacted here , thats all Khizzy was trying to do was save a bit of money on what he and a lot of others think , including myself is a tax that is way overpriced and to put it bluntly a rip off .

So i dont blame him one bit for asking , i would and have done the same .

[khizzy]

Not that i want to get involve but i think you have slightly over reacted here , thats all Khizzy was trying to do was save a bit of money on what he and a lot of others think , including myself is a tax that is way overpriced and to put it bluntly a rip off .

So i dont blame him one bit for asking , i would and have done the same .

thanks mate.

for example if i get a cue with an invoice saying its worth is 40 GBP i still have to end up paying 20-25 GBP as tax,which IMHO is insane.i have nowhere raised a finger on the quality and product of craftsman cues here.

all i intended to do was to let everyone know what happened.

[jb134]

Not that i want to get involve but i think you have slightly over reacted here , thats all Khizzy was trying to do was save a bit of money on what he and a lot of others think , including myself is a tax that is way overpriced and to put it bluntly a rip off .

So i dont blame him one bit for asking , i would and have done the same .

That's what I said in my earlier post, it's a fraud that most would condone because "it's only tax". I pay my tax because it lights the streets and empties the bins and allows us the wonderfully diverse ethnicity we have in our schools and universities.

In short it runs the country. The next time your wages are £40 short just think "well if I was my employer I'd have done the same".

[hotpot]

That's what I said in my earlier post, it's a fraud that most would condone because "it's only tax". I pay my tax because it lights the streets and empties the bins and allows us the wonderfully diverse ethnicity we have in our schools and universities.

In short it runs the country. The next time your wages are £40 short just think "well if I was my employer I'd have done the same".

Yes agree , and Kizzy myself , and every other hard working folk also pay theirs , but customs ans international taxer are and i qoute a total rip off and i dont blame anyone who tries to avoid or get it cheaper .


For christ sake you,ve portrayed Kizzy as no motre less than the artful dodger . Well if he,s that bad then god help the people who are running our country , nothing short of criminals .

If he,s a fraudster then i,m eddie the eagle

[jb134]

If it's not fraud, what is it?

Ok, we'll agree to disagree, however to state that a retailer refusing to tell a lie is bad customer service is laughable.