WSC Real 2011

[lukey868]

Not impressed with the game at all.

Not going to go on about the problems as everyone else has already put them forward and we're getting no response.

Best moment just now, potted a red, and rolled up to the brown, which moved about 2 cm, was called a foul!

[Dogtown]

The new Camera angle (that Virgo so likes..) as soon as the cue ball is near the baulk cush all you can see is the butt of the cue....and the AI so far seems to be a tad thick...the break graphic seems so cumbersome on screen, and the scores never seem to be there when you need them, especially if you need snookers..at the moment it's a lot of spit and not a lot of polish...

[sjsharp2008]

lol yeah they have better graphics than the 11 version, which is surprisingly funny ^^

not totally sure about that I( think the graphkics aer good to a point as the aiming aid is much clearer to see in this version and this was one of the rproblems I was having with both 07 and 09 the game just feels like it's only been half done would'vwe liked to have seen those new ranking events included as part of the game though and the controls made customisable at least at least. If this is the best you can do DE then let somebody else hasve a go they can't do much worse and snooker deserves a better simulation than what iyou are giving it. I think everybody here is united on that front anyway

[Magnog]

not totally sure about that I( think the graphkics aer good to a point as the aiming aid is much clearer to see in this version and this was one of the rproblems I was having with both 07 and 09 the game just feels like it's only been half done would'vwe liked to have seen those new ranking events included as part of the game though and the controls made customisable at least at least. If this is the best you can do DE then let somebody else hasve a go they can't do much worse and snooker deserves a better simulation than what iyou are giving it. I think everybody here is united on that front anyway

yeah they need to sell the physics engine to EA sports or something, EA have like every other sports game out there but snooker, i think it's about time they delivered one.

[beechy1212]

Played it today. First visit - 60 break.

Later on in the frame, something amazing happened. I potted a red and wasn't concentrating. As it automatically homes in on the nearest colour, the computer had nominated 'black' for me. Without looking, i took the yellow. Potted it but rightly so, a foul 7 and a miss was called. The opponent, My Norge, decided to have the balls replaced. There was a red left on the table which he could pot but needed Snookers.

Anyway, the computer said i had to take a colour. So i potted the yellow and the referee called ''two''.

What's going on? This can't be right, can it?

Also, at the end of the frame, Mr Norge needed a snooker and potted all the colours but played safe on the back :/

[breakman16]

Battered higgins 5-0, nicked the first frame, scrappy, with a break of about 40, then breaks of 83, 87, 145 and 121 total clearance for the win, next up was stephen lee, BOY he pushed me, he got a 60 odd from a snooker behind the yellow (came of baulk cushion and hit a red in half ball into the bottom corner), but missed, i couldnt quite clear up, my last tough red I missed, next frame he gets a 60, should have been 2-0, I HAD to clear up, I did with a 65, for 1 all. He pots a stupid red and makes 83 for 2-1, then I potted 2 reds in 2 frames early on and made a 135 total clearance to level and 117 to win, I played 50% matches, in tournaments, first to 3, 3, 4 in the semis then 5 in the final!! Mark Selby next, not sure how I'm still in tbh! The AI is quite a bit harder than the last game!

[sjsharp2008]

When Codemasters distributed World Championship Snooker 2004, the game code was still written by Blade Interactive's team, that I think is the same of Dark Energy. I think that WCS 2004 is the best version, because into 2005 version it was not possible to disable totally aid aims, although the physics of the balls in 2005 version is better than 2004 version. I don't know 2011 version because doesn't exist a PC version...

I know but those games weer better generally I think than the efforts we are seeing now either these guys have lost apetite for producing these games that they simply don't care or someone isn't checking on the quality of their work becausee something is clearly going wrong as when they were partnered with CM I think CM did recognise the quality of the work they were doing I don't see that now. It is a shame though because CM do make some very good games and still are and I think the experience of building so many games over a long period of time has benefitted them given they've been at this I'd guess at least 25 years given I had games made by them for the old Amstrad.

[sjsharp2008]

yeah they need to sell the physics engine to EA sports or something, EA have like every other sports game out there but snooker, i think it's about time they delivered one.

yeah I think EA probably could do a good job with it given their experience with Fifa and Tiger woods they know about the pressures of edveloping good quality products on a tight schedule as do CM so in reality one of these 2 should pick it up Come on Barry Hearn do you really want snooker simulsations to become a laughing stock as they are with DE or are you going to give the license to someone that will deliver a high quality game like CM or EA

[RedThunder]

Anyone here play Carom3D. Downloaded it last night and it's a spot on game. Just like Virtual Pool :-) You can play snooker on it as well :-)

My handle is: RadThunder

[tai pichit]

Not impressed with the game at all.

Not going to go on about the problems as everyone else has already put them forward and we're getting no response.

Best moment just now, potted a red, and rolled up to the brown, which moved about 2 cm, was called a foul!

i had the same thing, except it was the yellow i rolled up to.... laughable!

i see DarkEnergy is online, how about doing the decent thing & giving us an explanation for releasing such a poor game which is full of flaws? This is not an opinion but a fact in my opinion, just scroll through the last few pages of this thread to see the many faults which we're all encountering.
You can't please everyone with features added or removed from previous versions but basic errors/oversights like the many listed on here are inexcusable.

[Harry_Potter]

just saw him post a review on twitter that gives it 80/100, never saw him post the bad ones...don't think he'll ever respond in a way we want...what a lousy company.
I fully agree with them loosing the license...somebody informed Mr Hearn ?

[DarkEnergy]

Hi Guys,

Apologies I've not been able to make it onto the forum for a while. We are looking at issues - obviously we need to gather all the information and make sure all bases are covered before we can act on it. It seems like a handful of minor issues which have slipped through from the data we are seeing, and we'll be sure to investigate and test these fully. Obviously issues that have been found didn't show up in testing so we need to investigate why they have appeared in the wild and more importantly we need to be able to reproduce them in order to look at fixes. Apologies to those affected, hopefully it doesn't detract too much from the overall game.

Appreciate all the feedback, keep it coming

[RedThunder]

Obviously issues that have been found didn't show up in testing

lol, thats a good one.

[Dogtown]

The fact that spots are missing from the cloth and the cue butt takes up the camera view in baulk are not minor issues, the rule mechanics I can appreciate might be hard to replicate, these are basic flaws that make the game nigh on impossible to enjoy.
These first of these issues must be easy to erradicate, wether the baize is a bitmap or a shader that should be done in an afternoon, or go back and use the 09 ones, the camera view might obviously take a little more time, but surely a piece of code can just alter the initial angle the camera is at that position or better still incorporate the 09 angle which only did the same butt view, very rarely...
and screwing the ball still gives me a avatar that insist on putting top on the cue ball....
even after these fixes it would seem that this version is no better (or different)than 09, as for the replay thing I haven't tried it, not interested and a waste of time and resources, and an oversight when you consider where you time and money would have been better spent..

[DarkEnergy]

Understood, but the process of creating, testing and approving a patch takes some time, so we'd want to cover all issues - unfortunately you can't merely fix an individual issue and just upload a patch on these consoles.

Many people have said that there are noticeable improvements and they're really enjoying the new version, obviously we're sorry if you are not and we'll work hard in the future to continue address issues you may have.

However this version certainly is better and definitely different to 09. We've created an all new pixel perfect physics system, added online tournaments, allowed saving at any point and of entire matches, fixed cheating issues in online play, improved the controls and interfaces, implemented better menus and super fast loading times, improve character create, added a retake feature, an all new time control replay feature, improved coaching, improved the aiming aid and made it harder and much more besides. Many of these features were the most high priority requests of fans after 09. We're really glad that so many are enjoying it as a result, but obviously sorry if some people are not so happy with it. You are well within your right to demand the best Snooker game possible, and that is our goal. We feel 2011 is a good step forward, but we'll be making bigger steps in the future and working hard to address all your issues